[Building Sakai] [Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Wiki's and Sakai
Jeff Ziegler
ziegler at umich.edu
Thu Apr 2 12:40:36 PDT 2009
Hi Adam,
I certainly don't mind sharing if others would find them useful.
Since Support probably has the best understanding of the hands-on
functionality of the Sakai toolset, I work closely with our local
"keeper of the docs", Margaret Wagner, to update and correct our
local online documentation. We collaborated on improving the Wiki
instructions, actually. If there's interest in the community, I can
get with her and see what we need to do to get them in trunk. Here's
an excerpt to give you an idea of the content:

On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:09 PM, dktr adam marshall wrote:
> Could the rewritten page replace the incumbent in trunk? I was
> thinking of doing something similar and I’m sure a lot of other
> people would also be interested.
>
> Adam
>
> From: pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:pedagogy-
> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ziegler
> Sent: 02 April 2009 20:05
> To: May, Megan Marie
> Cc: Sakai User; sakai-dev Dev; pedagogy Learning
> Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [Building Sakai] Wiki's and
> Sakai
>
> At UMich, when we first adopted rWiki we heard from a lot of
> instructors who were trying to use it but I re-wrote the default
> "Full Help Page" to explain the syntax (the macro instructions were
> completely obtuse) and included examples of usage and the expected
> results - much easier for them to understand now. We also started
> covering Wiki in our regular training workshops. Most of our
> Support contacts now are about Permissions or minor bugs like not
> being able to delete comments. Those of our users who use an
> external Wiki usually do so because they used it previously and
> don't want to relearn syntax in a new Wiki - it's just easier for
> them to link to their preferred Wiki through Web Content.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:50 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> Here at IU we’re disappointed that the WYSIWYG editing
> capabilities aren’t going to make the 2.6.0 release (see message
> below for the announcement/rationale). We’ve found that
> faculty try the wiki in Sakai but end up switching to free and
> inexpensive hosted solutions because they are so much easier to
> use. Obviously, the wysiwyg would greatly improve the user
> experience but it wouldn’t resolve the ‘ease of use’ issues
> we’re hearing about. This has made us wonder if it might be wise
> to explore other options, like integration with existing wiki
> applications.
>
> Do other institutions receive similar feedback? Has anyone
> looked into integrating Sakai with a different wiki solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Megan
>
>
>
> From: Pete Peterson [mailto:plpeterson at ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: 'Sakai Developers'; 'Sakai QA'; production at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Cc: Michael Korcuska; Knoop, Peter; Anthony Whyte; Pete Peterson;
> May, Megan Marie; Stephen Swinsburg; David Horwitz
> Subject: Important information about Sakai 2.6.0 and the rWiki tool
>
> Greetings Sakai Community,
>
>
>
> We have been unable to resolve a number of issues with the 2.6
> rwiki code, centered around the WYSIWYG editing capabilities and
> data loss under certain conditions. At this point in the release
> cycle we are opting to replace it with the 2.5.x version of rwiki,
> making the necessary changes to make it compatible with the 2.6
> codebase. We are also re-applying some of the minor fixes and
> improvements intended for the 2.6 version of rwiki to the 2.5.x-
> based version (see SAK-15866 for more details).
>
>
>
> Summary
>
> · We have rolled the rwiki code back to the 2.5 version
> which has proven stable in many production instances.
>
> · Many of the updated rwiki features that are present in
> trunk/ the original 2.6 version, have been merged back into this
> version. Details of this effort can be viewed at SAK-15866 (many
> thanks to Steve Swinsburg for his work on this issue).
>
> · This new hybrid-rwiki has been tested and seems to work
> as expected.
>
>
> With regards to the WYSIWYG editing capabilities for rwiki
> scheduled for inclusion in Sakai 2.6 (SAK-8535), we will continue
> explore options for implementing such functionality at a later
> time. This is an oft requested features, so if you are interested
> in helping us explore and implement possible solutions, please
> contact Peter Knoop, Sakai Project Coordinator.
>
> If you have any questions, comments or suggestions please send them
> to us by 3/31/2009.
>
> Thank you for your time and support,
>
> Pete Peterson
> QA Director, Sakai Foundation
> plpeterson at ucdavis.edu
> Phone: +1-530-754-7259
>
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