[Building Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Wiki's and Sakai

Thu Apr 2 12:09:43 PDT 2009

Could the rewritten page replace the incumbent in trunk? I was thinking of
doing something similar and I'm sure a lot of other people would also be
interested.

Adam 

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From: pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
[mailto:pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ziegler
Sent: 02 April 2009 20:05
To: May, Megan Marie
Cc: Sakai User; sakai-dev Dev; pedagogy Learning
Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [Building Sakai] Wiki's and Sakai

At UMich, when we first adopted rWiki we heard from a lot of instructors who
were trying to use it but I re-wrote the default "Full Help Page" to explain
the syntax (the macro instructions were completely obtuse) and included
examples of usage and the expected results - much easier for them to
understand now.  We also started covering Wiki in our regular training
workshops.  Most of our Support contacts now are about Permissions or minor
bugs like not being able to delete comments.  Those of our users who use an
external Wiki usually do so because they used it previously and don't want
to relearn syntax in a new Wiki - it's just easier for them to link to their
preferred Wiki through Web Content.

Jeff

On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:50 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:

Hi everyone, 

   Here at IU we're disappointed that the WYSIWYG editing capabilities
aren't going to make the 2.6.0 release (see message below for the
announcement/rationale).     We've found that faculty try the wiki in Sakai
but end up switching to free and inexpensive hosted solutions because they
are so much easier to use.   Obviously, the wysiwyg would greatly improve
the user experience but it wouldn't resolve the 'ease of use' issues we're
hearing about.  This has made us wonder if it might be wise to explore other
options, like integration with existing wiki applications.   

Do other institutions receive similar feedback?    Has anyone looked into
integrating Sakai with a different wiki solution?   

Thanks,

Megan 

From: Pete Peterson [mailto:plpeterson at ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:45 PM
To: 'Sakai Developers'; 'Sakai QA'; production at collab.sakaiproject.org
Cc: Michael Korcuska; Knoop, Peter; Anthony Whyte; Pete Peterson; May, Megan
Marie; Stephen Swinsburg; David Horwitz
Subject: Important information about Sakai 2.6.0 and the rWiki tool 

Greetings Sakai Community, 

We have been unable to resolve a number of issues with the 2.6 rwiki code,
centered around the WYSIWYG editing capabilities and data loss under certain
conditions.  At this point in the release cycle we are opting to replace it
with the 2.5.x version of rwiki, making the necessary changes to make it
compatible with the 2.6 codebase.  We are also re-applying some of the minor
fixes and improvements intended for the 2.6 version of rwiki to the
2.5.x-based version (see SAK-15866
<http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866>  for more details).

Summary

*         We have rolled the rwiki code back to the 2.5 version which has
proven stable in many production instances.

*         Many of the updated rwiki features that are present in trunk/ the
original 2.6 version, have been merged back into this version. Details of
this effort can be viewed at SAK-15866
<http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866>  (many thanks to Steve
Swinsburg for his work on this issue).

*         This new hybrid-rwiki has been tested and seems to work as
expected. 

With regards to the WYSIWYG editing capabilities for rwiki scheduled for
inclusion in  Sakai 2.6 (SAK-8535
<http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-8535> ), we will continue
explore options for implementing such functionality at a later time.  This
is an oft requested features, so if you are interested in helping us explore
and implement possible solutions, please contact Peter Knoop
<mailto:knoop at umich.edu> , Sakai Project Coordinator.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions please send them to us by
3/31/2009.

Thank you for your time and support,

Pete Peterson

QA Director, Sakai Foundation

plpeterson at ucdavis.edu

Phone: +1-530-754-7259

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