[Building Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Wiki's and Sakai

Adam Marshall adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Mon Apr 6 04:50:48 PDT 2009 

It's Jeff you need to thank! 

Adam 

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Hardman, Gloria [mailto:gloria.hardman at yale.edu]
| Sent: 03 April 2009 14:49
| To: Moore, Kathleen E; Jeff Ziegler; dktr adam marshall
| Cc: Dupee, Bill; Sakai User; sakai-dev Dev; pedagogy Learning
| Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Wiki's and Sakai
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| Hi Adam
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| This would be really useful for us at Yale as well.  It is so much better
| than what we have on 2.5
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|  I noticed that on one of the QA servers     http://qa3-
| us.sakaiproject.org:8086/portal    the Wiki help is much improved
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| Thank you for offering to share.
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| Gloria
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| On 4/3/09 8:43 AM, "Moore, Kathleen E" <kemoore at bu.edu> wrote:
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| Adam,
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| This is really good!
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| Kathy
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| Kathleen Moore
| Web Manager
| Boston University School of Management
| kemoore at bu.edu
| 617-353-2685
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| From: pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:pedagogy-
| bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ziegler
| Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:41 PM
| To: dktr adam marshall
| Cc: 'Sakai User'; 'sakai-dev Dev'; 'pedagogy Learning'
| Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [Building Sakai] Wiki's and Sakai
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| Hi Adam,
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| I certainly don't mind sharing if others would find them useful. Since
| Support probably has the best understanding of the hands-on functionality
| of the Sakai toolset, I work closely with our local "keeper of the docs",
| Margaret Wagner, to update and correct our local online documentation. We
| collaborated on improving the Wiki instructions, actually. If there's
| interest in the community, I can get with her and see what we need to do
| to get them in trunk. Here's an excerpt to give you an idea of the
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| On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:09 PM, dktr adam marshall wrote:
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| Could the rewritten page replace the incumbent in trunk? I was thinking of
| doing something similar and Im sure a lot of other people would also be
| interested.
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| Adam
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| From:pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:pedagogy-
| bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org]On Behalf OfJeff Ziegler
| Sent:02 April 2009 20:05
| To:May, Megan Marie
| Cc:Sakai User; sakai-dev Dev; pedagogy Learning
| Subject:Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [BuildingSakai] Wiki's andSakai
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| At UMich, when we first adopted rWiki we heard from a lot of instructors
| who were trying to use it but I re-wrote the default "Full Help Page" to
| explain the syntax (the macro instructions werecompletelyobtuse)and
| included examples of usage and the expected results - much easier for them
| to understand now. We also started covering Wiki in our regular training
| workshops. Most of our Support contacts now are about Permissions or minor
| bugs like not being able to delete comments. Those of our users who use an
| external Wiki usually do so because they used it previously and don't want
| to relearn syntax in a new Wiki - it's just easier for them to link to
| their preferred Wiki through Web Content.
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| Jeff
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| On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:50 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:
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| Hi everyone,
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| Here at IU were disappointed that the WYSIWYG editing capabilities arent
| going to make the 2.6.0 release (see message below for the
| announcement/rationale). Weve found that faculty try the wiki inSakaibut
| end upswitching to free and inexpensive hosted solutions because they are
| so much easier to use. Obviously, the wysiwyg would greatly improve the
| user experience but it wouldnt resolve the ease of use issues were hearing
| about. This has made us wonder if it might be wise to explore other
| options, like integration with existing wiki applications.
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| Do other institutions receive similar feedback? Has anyone looked into
| integratingSakaiwith a different wiki solution?
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| Thanks,
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| Megan
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| From:Pete Peterson [mailto:plpeterson at ucdavis.edu]
| Sent:Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:45 PM
| To:'Sakai Developers'; 'Sakai QA';production at collab.sakaiproject.org
| Cc:Michael Korcuska; Knoop, Peter; Anthony Whyte; Pete Peterson; May,
| Megan Marie; Stephen Swinsburg; David Horwitz
| Subject:Important information aboutSakai2.6.0 and the rWiki tool
| GreetingsSakaiCommunity,
| We have been unable to resolve a number of issues with the 2.6 rwiki code,
| centered around the WYSIWYG editing capabilities and data loss under
| certain conditions. At this point in the release cycle we are opting to
| replace it with the 2.5.x version of rwiki, making the necessary changes
| to make it compatible with the 2.6 codebase. We are also re-applying some
| of the minor fixes and improvements intended for the 2.6 version of rwiki
| to the 2.5.x-based version (seeSAK-15866
| <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866> for more details).
| Summary
| We have rolled the rwiki code back to the 2.5 version which has proven
| stable in many production instances.
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| Many of the updated rwiki features that are present in trunk/ the original
| 2.6 version, have been merged back into this version. Details of this
| effort can be viewed atSAK-15866
| <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866> (many thanks to Steve
| Swinsburg for his work on this issue).
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| This new hybrid-rwiki has been tested and seems to work as expected.
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| With regards to the WYSIWYG editing capabilities for rwiki scheduled for
| inclusion in Sakai2.6 (SAK-8535
| <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-8535> ), we will continue
| explore options for implementing such functionality at a later time. This
| is an oft requested features, so if you are interested in helping us
| explore and implement possible solutions, please contactPeter Knoop
| <mailto:knoop at umich.edu> , Sakai Project Coordinator.
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| If you have any questions, comments or suggestions please send them to us
| by 3/31/2009.
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| Thank you for your time and support,
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| Pete Peterson
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| QA Director,SakaiFoundation
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| plpeterson at ucdavis.edu
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| Phone: +1-530-754-7259
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