[Deploying Sakai] OAE Administration functions

Sat Sep 10 06:24:34 PDT 2011

Yes, I probably didn't explain well. I want to challenge apparent assumptions that seemed implicit in the request. In my mind an important goal is to have very low levels of support and intervention. I don't necessarily think the admin functions will never be needed, but I hope they will only be needed very rarely. The point then becomes where these admin functions are on the priority list if their use is an edge case. Thus for example, being able to do something on behalf of someone else is a variation on "become user" that I would put as much higher priority.

John

On 10 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Oliver Heyer wrote:

> I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking for, John. Dawn offered a very brief elaboration of each requirement, but did not, AFAICT, offer any justifications. As Eli points out, more than one item in the UCB list overlaps with Dawn's. 
> 
> I may again be misinterpreting, but outside of the ability to add/remove a user from a group, I'm not sure which of the items involves doing something "to" the user. Presumably, becoming a "superuser" will allow a top level admin a great deal of latitude in that regard.
> 
> Perhaps others will disagree, but based on experience, most of the requirements captured on this thread thus far seem like basic capabilities necessary to supporting a system like OAE across an enterprise.
> 
> Oliver
> 
> On 9/10/11 1:21 AM, John Norman wrote:
>> 
>> I missed this in the list move. I would like to encourage Berkeley to explain reasons as Dawn did, because I'm not sure we want too many things to be done to the user by an admin. On the other hand, I would add to the list (and I believe it is in the specs) the ability to delegate admin powers within a certain scope of the site and the way to do something on behalf of another user for certain roles beyond administrator (TA acting for professor, Secretary acting for Head of Department).
>> 
>> J
>>  
>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:43, Eli Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> Our Director of Operations just sent me an email this morning stressing his need for Administrative tools. He summed it up with the following list which overlaps Dawn's list rather nicely.
>>> 
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to look up a user's account information
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to see a user's login history
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to become a particular user
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to see a user's group memberships
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to add/remove user from a group
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to email a specific user
>>>> As admin, I want to be able to see how many users are currently online
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Eli 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Calvert, Dawn wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A question that has popped up a couple of times is the need for an admin/ support type interface and whether this should be on the Y2 plan.
>>>> 
>>>> Are any other pilot institutions thinking similarly...
>>>> 
>>>> The interface would allow features like:
>>>> 
>>>> •       Become user (so you can see what the user sees)
>>>> •       Superuser (ie, ability to see any site, add widgets, manage any permissions, etc etc)
>>>> •       System usage (how many current sessions, system load, memory etc)
>>>> •       System wide messaging (e.g. ability to push a popup to all users saying we are gonna stop the server in 20mins)
>>>> •       Job scheduler (ability to kick off code at certain times)
>>>> •       A way to add pilot tools/widgets as that wouldn’t be normally accessible by logging in as a coordinator.
>>>> 
>>>> Comments before the this weeks URG would be useful.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dawn
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