[Deploying Sakai] 2 separate instances of a tool on a site
srini07 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 13:36:27 PDT 2010
Hmm... So that sounds neat. I do want different contents for the 2 instances
on the same site.
I created 2 different pages on the same site. I then created a new instance
of the wiki for each of the pages and edited the attributes as Zhen mentions
here. It does the job.
Thanks for your inputs folks. This has been useful.
I also tried doing this for the Site Information Display tool. This would
offer me quick way to use this tool to add 'notes' on different pages in the
same site. I am able to create instances with different titles, but the
content remains the same in this case (as Mathew points out).
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu> wrote:
> One of the tools that could benefit from SAK-7209 is Chat, since every Chat
> tool instance has a unique channel-id. A site could have multiple Chat tools
> with different channel ids, and each Chat tool only displays those messages
> inside its own channel.
> However, the Wiki tool integrates tightly with User, Site, Realm and
> resources services. It uses site to create a default wiki space into which a
> user adds pages, and uses Realm object for permission wihin the current site
> (http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/RWIKI/Home). Its root object
> is always at the site level.
> However, you can try the following trick to "disguise" two Rwiki tools:
> 1. Add two instances of wiki tools, either from Admin Sites tool or follow
> the steps Matthew mentioned below:
> 2. Go to Admin Sites tool (this is not doable in Site Info, nor the "Info"
> page within Wiki itself), locate the tool, and note the following
> So you could create two pages inside the default Home page. Assign one page
> as the home-page for one Wiki, and assign another to the second Wiki tool.
> You can update the "home-page-friendly-name" attribute, too.
> Save. Refresh the tools. Now the two Wikis seem to be "different" then.
> Hope this helps.
> - Zhen
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:47:58 -0400, Matthew Jones <jonespm at umich.edu>
> Yea, I'm not sure the idea behind that. I don't think announcement would
> work by default either because the default channel is the siteid. However an
> admin can change the channel id on the page properties for announcements.
> Edit: Site d8069233-4ee8-4071-ac5c-dc06c6abefcc / Page
> 6c41081c-46dc-4fe5-b7c1-8b8375e34672 / Tool
> CHANNEL_ID =
> However the sakai news and web content are special because they have no
> special tables, only the tool page and the associated page properties, this
> allows you to have multiple pages per site with different page properties.
> Since site<->page<->tool it seems like it wouldn't matter what you used
> as your identifier and it might be better to go all the way down and use the
> page or the tool.
> But I'm not expert on the inner workings of all of this, it just seems
> like it wouldn't be a problem, even with the site restoration trick you
> mentioned to get things back. The only problem would be all existing rwiki's
> would need a conversion script to fix their realm in the objects, and that's
> something we don't have a great process of handling yet. (though is
> something being worked on for another issue)
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Steve Swinsburg <
> steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Interesting, I was always under the impression that tools should always
>> bind to the siteid/userid as the identifier for persisting data, rather than
>> the specific page instance they are on?
>> I know this breaks the ability for multiple instances of some tools (those
>> that don't support multiple parts in them anyway), but data that is then
>> safely persisted to the site. If the site is deleted it can be retrieved by
>> re-creating the site with the same siteid (found in an email, bookmark or
>> logfile), and all data in tools is still there, you just need to readd the
>> tool to the site.
>> If the data for a tool was tied to a page, that would be more difficult to
>> obtain and recreate.
>> For those tools that do support multiples, eg Web Content/News etc, they
>> have limited data (generally a single URL and a title) so associating them
>> with a pageid is probably ok.
>> On 23/04/2010, at 8:04 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>> The feature that enables this was implemented in
>> <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7209>(Allow multiple instances
>> of new tools)
>> However, only a few tools have been set by default to allow multiple
>> instances. I believe this was because not all tools work correctly and they
>> weren't all tested out with this feature. Unfortunately rwiki is one of
>> these and it uses the siteid as an identifier rather than the page id. So
>> even if you enabled it for multiple tools, the content will still always be
>> the same. I can look into this to see what it would take to change this, but
>> it's probably not trivial.
>> Anyway, normally to make the change to allow multiple instances (since
>> I'd already typed it up) on a live system all you'd have to do is:
>> (This is in your tomcat home directory)
>> 1) Edit webapps/sakai-rwiki-tool/tools/sakai.rwiki.xml
>> Add in the configuration for allowMultipleInstances somewhere near the
>> bottom before the
>> * *
>> Then either restart the instance, or just get the tool to redeploy by
>> 'touching' web.xml (in unix or with unxutils  in windows).
>> (Should get tomcat to 'redeploy' rwiki)
>> 2) touch webapps/sakai-rwiki-tool/WEB-INF/web.xml
>> 3) Then you should either update this file in your sakai-rwiki-tool.war
>> (you can just use zip), or if you're building from source, update it there
>> so the change is permanent.
>> If you did this you'd notice the screenshot below where you can add
>> multiple instance of wiki with different names but they are all identical,
>> and they all will have the same global name which is the site id (
>> /site/590ca56b-c081-4616-bde1-8dbe907d1a30/home). :( I'm guessing it
>> wouldn't be *hard* to change this id to include the page, but it probably
>> would be hard to change it and also retain compatibility with all of the
>> existing wikis with old references.
>> [image: manywiki.jpg]
>>  http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Sri Kota <srini07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Friends,
>>> I want to have 2 separate instances of the Wiki on the same worksite.
>>> Currently, when I try to create a "New Tool", it gives me a copy of the
>>> first instance.
>>> How can I have multiple instances of a tool on the same site?
>>> - Sri
>>> Sarvē Janā Sukhinō Bhavantu
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