[Portfolio] Sakai 3-ish discussion

[Josh Baron]

I would agree, I think this is a good place for all of the "using sakai" 
groups to coordinate.

David and I have been exchanging e-mails recently regarding how to better 
coordinate/communicate with developers around requirements and I've 
initiated some discussions on the last few teaching and learning calls 
about this topic.  I think we are at a good place in time and with regards 
to these discussions to begin to consider ways of coordinating across 
several groups.  This said, we've wanted to wait for Michael's update from 
the Foundation Retreat before getting too deeply into the details.

I'd suggest that we all continue to dialog about this for the next week or 
so and then begin more formal planning once Michael's update comes out.

Thoughts?

josh

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Joshua Baron
Director, Academic Technology and eLearning
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)



From:
John Norman <john at caret.cam.ac.uk>
To:
Sean Keesler <sean at keesler.org>
Cc:
"portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org" <portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Date:
03/16/2009 12:24 PM
Subject:
Re: [Portfolio] Sakai 3-ish discussion



The groups may have different top-level priorities, but that doesn't 
mean there are not a vast number of shared interests i.e. if the plane 
is on fire and there is only one parachute, who gets the parachute? 
The groups may make different choices, but that doesn't mean they are 
not both interested in the prospect of a safe landing or putting out 
the fire.

I think OSP have developed some good practices around the needs 
statements that help developers a lot to see what is needed, I'd quite 
like to get "teaching and learning" group to follow a similar route, 
for example fleshing out David Goodrum's priority list to a similar 
level of detail. Many of the things David is calling for would be of 
value to portfolio folk - for example the concept mapping as a means 
of stimulating reflection.

For OSP needs, the main thing that I think Sakai 3 brings is a tag- 
centric view of content and therefore the ability to assemble and 
reassemble information in many ways and far more easily than in 
current Sakai. But that doesn't mean we know exactly how to do this 
best for OSP needs. Also Goal awareness and user activity tracking 
seem very relevant to both sets of requirements.

HTH
John

On 16 Mar 2009, at 16:05, Sean Keesler wrote:

> Here are some notes I took from the community conference call during 
> our discussion of the future development:
>
> Relevant notes from 2009-03-16 OSP Community Call
>
> Sean reviewed the changed to the vignettes page with the group and 
> suggested that a next step would be to come up with a strategy for 
> introducing this to the Sakai3 working group. Noah has been keeping 
> his finger on the pulse of Sakai 3, but others probably could also 
> participate. Sean asked if others would be willing and able to 
> participate in conversations with the UX and T&L group, and if so, 
> how do we best do that? Noah mentioned that there is a weekly UX 
> call that could be used, but that the main conversations for Sakai3 
> are small conversations over Skype and the Sakai 001 bridge with 
> Nathan and a small group of developers. This group is under a lot of 
> pressure to release a version of Sakai 3 for Cambridge/GeorgiaTech 
> and we are unlikely to have an impact on its direction.
>
> Perhaps a good strategy for interacting with the Sakai 3 WG would be 
> to do so in concert with the T&L group. We recognize that there is a 
> barrier between how we think. Lynn had mentioned last week that they 
> are primarily focused on course/project sites. It may be that the 
> readiness of the OSP are a barrier (in which case, we should talk 
> with them soon to ensure that this is not the case in the future). 
> Nancy mentioned that Matthiew Plourde attends the T&L calls and she 
> would ask him for a recommendation on how the T&L group is 
> interacting with the Sakai 3/UX group and report back next week.
>
>
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