[DG: Teaching & Learning] Lessons Tool Survey

Neal Caidin neal.caidin at apereo.org
Fri Sep 19 06:23:07 PDT 2014


Hi Peter,

I cannot edit the document either. Probably the sharing permissions need 
to be updated.

 >the Editor is appalling

Can you give some specifics? Are you talking about the CK Editor which 
is the Rich text editor used ubiquitously throughout Sakai?

Thanks,
Neal


> Peter Owen <mailto:Peter.Owen at wits.ac.za>
> September 19, 2014 at 2:26 AM
>
> When I opened the link I was not able to edit the document so could 
> not add anything. So instead, I’m taking the opportunity to mention 
> several aspects of the Lessons tool which I have found frustrating: I 
> hope this is ok?
>
> It appears we do not have Lessons 10 so maybe some of these concerns 
> have been covered, but judging by the survey questions, I suspect not. 
> So here’s my list, based on producing an online version of a heavily 
> illustrated text-book:
>
> 1.Navigation is a huge issue, as it is with any e-learning and 
> especially an online site. Users need to know where they are at any 
> one time and need to be able to access everywhere else all the time. 
> The Index is not accessible enough as you have to navigate away from 
> the page to get it (and the Nav bar doesn’t show sub-pages and anyway 
> gets too long). I solved this by providing my own navigation on each 
> page, giving access to each part of the current chapter, as well as 
> links to each of the other chapters.
>
> 2.Providing text vertically only goes against all the usability rules, 
> and with tablets, phones and screens providing horizontal scrolling, 
> it means that information can be placed horizontally, although again 
> scrolling should be discouraged. This means setting up multiple pages 
> and sub-pages, which is not a problem but again requires better 
> navigation functionality.
>
> 3.All learning is enhanced by the addition of media, but the Editor in 
> the tool is very klunky for adding even just graphics, photos, etc. 
> What is desperately needed is a Slider! The book I set up has lots of 
> pictures, and in a learning environment, it’s a great way to revise 
> the content. If you can scroll through the pictures and recognise them 
> and know the associated content, you won’t waste time revising: but if 
> you don’t recognise the picture or know the content, you can click on 
> the picture, and it will take you straight to that part of the 
> content. My students think this is a great idea, but the only way I 
> could do this in the absence of a slider, was to set up a table with 
> multiple columns and copy the pictures into each column, with a 
> clickable title. It works, but was cumbersome and very time-consuming.
>
> 4.Similarly in the text, to avoid scrolling, I had to use columns in a 
> table in order to have text and pictures on the same screen.
>
> 5.So I have set up a series of templates which I can copy into the 
> dreadful editor: it would therefore be useful to have a variety of 
> templates for users.
>
> 6.As I have mentioned, the Editor is appalling: surely there’s a 
> better one out there?
>
> 7.Again, in order to prevent too much scrolling, and especially if you 
> set up your own navigation, it would be useful to have the option (or 
> to be able to give users the option) of disabling the breadcrumbs, as 
> after a while they take up far too much screen real estate.
>
> 8.Finally, the multimedia content restrictions are a bit of a pain 
> (and can only be added vertically) and I understand how difficult it 
> is but there must be some add-ins to allow for example viewing of a 
> PowerPoint rather than having to download it first?
>
> I have probably violated the rules of collaboration with this list but 
> wasn’t sure how to get these points across or to whom, so my apologies 
> if this list is inappropriate in this forum!
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
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> *From:*Aurora Collado [mailto:aurora.collado at nyu.edu]
> *Sent:* 18 September 2014 20:30
> *To:* pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* [DG: Teaching & Learning] Lessons Tool Survey
>
> Hi all,
>
> The document to collect questions for the Lessons tool survey is now 
> available here
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ErONFidjuJAZQJuXXydBLcxl5iZVIcI03QTatmz0Vf8/edit?usp=sharing 
>
>
> I added the categories (blue titles) and space under each category for 
> everyone to start writing potential questions to add to the survey. I 
> also added a description for each of the categories (gray text) to 
> have a concept in mind about want type of information we are tying to 
> get from users  with our questions for each category. The gray text 
> will not be included with the survey itself it is just for our reference.
>
> I have added a couple of questions to start with and I look forward to 
> seeing what other questions you have in mind. The thing to remember is 
> that these are questions related to UI/UX changes, this is, how the 
> interface or ways of doing things should be changed in order to make 
> the tool more intuitive and efficient. It is not about adding new 
> functionality.
>
> During the next call we will go over the questions, deliberate which 
> ones to add, why, how to reward them if necessary, present them, group 
> them, etc. So, please take a moment to think and add some questions 
> before the next call on 9/27.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for you interest and help with this,
>
> Aurora
>
>
>
>
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> Aurora Collado <mailto:aurora.collado at nyu.edu>
> September 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM
> Hi all,
>
> The document to collect questions for the Lessons tool survey is now 
> available here
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ErONFidjuJAZQJuXXydBLcxl5iZVIcI03QTatmz0Vf8/edit?usp=sharing 
>
>
> I added the categories (blue titles) and space under each category for 
> everyone to start writing potential questions to add to the survey. I 
> also added a description for each of the categories (gray text) to 
> have a concept in mind about want type of information we are tying to 
> get from users  with our questions for each category. The gray text 
> will not be included with the survey itself it is just for our reference.
>
> I have added a couple of questions to start with and I look forward to 
> seeing what other questions you have in mind. The thing to remember is 
> that these are questions related to UI/UX changes, this is, how the 
> interface or ways of doing things should be changed in order to make 
> the tool more intuitive and efficient. It is not about adding new 
> functionality.
>
> During the next call we will go over the questions, deliberate which 
> ones to add, why, how to reward them if necessary, present them, group 
> them, etc. So, please take a moment to think and add some questions 
> before the next call on 9/27.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for you interest and help with this,
>
> Aurora
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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