[DG: Teaching & Learning] [DG: User Experience] micro-commentary use case for gradable content in Sakai 3?

[Clay Fenlason]

We are, in fact, in the midst of trying to document the needs for
commenting or providing feedback on completed work in Sakai 3, and
it's a fair observation they've tended to focus on atomic objects with
summary reviews so far. The notion of marking up a portion of writing
is there (as well as sharing drafts with others for comment, outside
of any formal assessment), but you've put your finger on a few issues
that make it clear this needs to be fleshed out further.

I can't reasonably project implementation dates for features, but for
the moment I can definitely say we'd like to get your help describing
the need. Some good material in this thread already, but in a few days
(when we have something a little more readable) I'd like to share a
'minispec' or three and get your response.

~Clay

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Kenneth Robert Romeo
<kenro at stanford.edu> wrote:
> This is a great question - it is exactly the kind of capability many of us
> in the T&L group are hoping for in future versions of Sakai.  I guess the
> more pertinent question (or impertinent, depending on how you look at it)
> is *when* this kind of capability is going to be supported in Sakai.  If I
> am not mistaken, it is not in the roadmap yet.  Even just a best guess
> might be more possible than it was a year ago ....
> Ken Romeo
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Nate Angell
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:57 AM
> To: Bruce D'Arcus
> Cc: pedagogy Learning; Sakai UX
> Subject: Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [DG: User Experience]
> micro-commentary use case for gradable content in Sakai 3?
>
> Bruce:
>
> I'm copying the Sakai Teaching & Learning list as they are also
> engaged in designing Sakai 3 capabilities.
>
> It will be important to record the detailed use case you bring up,
> where snippets of user content might be assessed/commented on, with or
> without also linking them to additional resources like rubrics.
>
> I've often thought if this area if capabilities as an extension of a
> more generalized tagging capability, where one is associating user
> content with something else (eg, an assessment, a rubric) and possibly
> commenting on that association (eg, assessment feedback).
>
> - Nate
>
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 12:29 PM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not exactly sure where to go for this, but this list seems reasonable
> ...
>>
>> As I'm grading some discussion fora posts in my institutions
>> soon-to-be-legacy non-Sakai LMS, just want to make sure of something:
>>
>> For the new grading support in Sakai 3, I know that virtually anything
>> will be able to be graded using the same approach.
>>
>> I also recall discussion of the ability to use (and hopefully easily
>> share) rubrics for grading of such items.
>>
>> What I don't recall is whether there will be support for
>> micro-commentary on content.
>>
>> E.g. use case:
>>
>> I am reading a discussion forum post and wish to highlight a section
>> of the post (a few words or sentences) that shows this problem or that
>> problem (which, BTW, is likely to have some connection to the rubric I
>> am using to assess the post as a whole).
>>
>> Possible "problems" I might want to flag might be mechanical issues
>> like word choice or grammar (e.g. issues common across courses), or
>> they might be content-based (more course-specific).
>>
>> So will this use case be supported?
>>
>> Bruce
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