[DG: Teaching & Learning] Wiki's and Sakai

[Carlos R. Solis Ph.D.]

+1 here

The Wiki is one of the most attractive tools when first mentioned, but  
the actual instructional use ends up being taken on only by those  
determined enough to hang in there.  We have had some exceptional and  
exemplary practices with but we need more in that area.

Carlos
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Carlos R. Solis Ph.D.
Manager, Educational Technologies
Rice University
(713)348-5687
solis at rice.edu


On Apr 1, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Hardman, Gloria wrote:

Hello all

Our faculty have generally found the Wiki too difficult as well.  A  
few have done wonders with it and their students participated with  
enthusiasm.     For most, it is too much effort to figure it all out.

For those who have used more user-friendly Wiki software it is hard to  
understand why we can't offer a more user-friendly solution.

We were also hoping for a better editor in 2.6.


All the best

Gloria


On 4/1/09 4:59 PM, "May, Megan Marie" <mmmay at indiana.edu> wrote:

Hi everyone,
  Here at IU we're disappointed that the WYSIWYG editing capabilities  
aren't going to make the 2.6.0 release (see message below for the  
announcement/rationale).     We've found that faculty try the wiki in  
Sakai but end up switching to free and inexpensive hosted solutions  
because they are so much easier to use.   Obviously, the wysiwyg would  
greatly improve the user experience but it wouldn't resolve the 'ease  
of use' issues we're hearing about.  This has made us wonder if it  
might be wise to explore other options, like integration with existing  
wiki applications.

Do other institutions receive similar feedback?   Has anyone looked  
into integrating Sakai with a different wiki solution?

Thanks,
Megan




From: Pete Peterson [mailto:plpeterson at ucdavis.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:45 PM
To: 'Sakai Developers'; 'Sakai QA'; production at collab.sakaiproject.org
Cc: Michael Korcuska; Knoop, Peter; Anthony Whyte; Pete Peterson; May,  
Megan Marie; Stephen Swinsburg; David Horwitz
Subject: Important information about Sakai 2.6.0 and the rWiki tool

Greetings Sakai Community,

We have been unable to resolve a number of issues with the 2.6 rwiki  
code, centered around the WYSIWYG editing capabilities and data loss  
under certain conditions.  At this point in the release cycle we are  
opting to replace it with the 2.5.x version of rwiki, making the  
necessary changes to make it compatible with the 2.6 codebase.  We are  
also re-applying some of the minor fixes and improvements intended for  
the 2.6 version of rwiki to the 2.5.x-based version (see SAK-15866 <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866 
 ><http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866>  for more  
details).

Summary
*        We have rolled the rwiki code back to the 2.5 version which  
has proven stable in many production instances.

·        Many of the updated rwiki features that are present in trunk/  
the original 2.6 version, have been merged back into this version.  
Details of this effort can be viewed at SAK-15866 <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866 
 ><http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-15866>  (many thanks  
to Steve Swinsburg for his work on this issue).

*        This new hybrid-rwiki has been tested and seems to work as  
expected.


With regards to the WYSIWYG editing capabilities for rwiki scheduled  
for inclusion in  Sakai 2.6 (SAK-8535 <http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-8535 
 ><http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-8535> ), we will  
continue explore options for implementing such functionality at a  
later time.  This is an oft requested features, so if you are  
interested in helping us explore and implement possible solutions,  
please contact Peter Knoop <mailto:knoop at umich.edu><mailto:knoop at umich.edu 
 > , Sakai Project Coordinator.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions please send them to  
us by 3/31/2009.

Thank you for your time and support,

Pete Peterson
QA Director, Sakai Foundation
plpeterson at ucdavis.edu
Phone: +1-530-754-7259


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