[DG: Open Forum] [Building Sakai] New Email Address

Mark J. Norton markjnorton at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 14 06:36:24 PDT 2013


I made my statement directly to Google protesting an invasion of my 
privacy.  I don't see changing email services will do much good at this 
point, but at least I can protect.  I sent an email msg to President 
Obama as well indicating that I do not like the very concept of Secret Law.

- Mark

On 6/13/2013 8:41 PM, David Adams wrote:
> Good for him for making a statement, but other than switching all 
> communications over to Tor or something, there's really nothing 
> practical that can be done to avoid being surveilled by the US 
> government, or the UK government. University IT departments are not 
> immune to such requests for data dumps either. And don't think you'll 
> get confirmation that it's going on.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu 
> <mailto:jimeng at umich.edu>> wrote:
>
>     All three emails responding to Adrian's so far were handled by
>     Google, for what it's worth.
>
>     I take Adrian's stance to be a statement, rather than a personal
>     solution to the problem.  It would be nice to have solutions, but
>     sometimes the best we can do is make a statement.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>     On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, David Adams <daveadams at gmail.com
>     <mailto:daveadams at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     Has fastmail made some statement about its refusal to cooperate
>>     with such data collection or has it just not been mentioned
>>     because it's not a big player? In any case, most international
>>     Internet traffic is closely monitored by the US government as
>>     well, it would seem. So while some of your user metadata may be
>>     safer in fastmail, the contents of your email messages are
>>     probably just as accessible to the same folks, for whatever it's
>>     worth. And with this email they now know what fastmail address to
>>     correlate with your Google account.
>>
>>     Just sayin... :)
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu
>>     <mailto:jimeng at umich.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         +1
>>
>>
>>         On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Adrian Fish
>>         <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com <mailto:adrian.r.fish at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>         Hi Sakaiers,
>>>
>>>         Just a quick note to say that I'm using a new email address,
>>>         adrianfish at fastmail.fm <mailto:adrianfish at fastmail.fm>, in
>>>         addition to my Lancaster one. I'm closing all my Google
>>>         related accounts due to their alleged pimping of user data
>>>         to the US government.
>>>
>>>         Cheers,
>>>         Adrian.
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