[WG: I18N & L10N] Mexican Spanish issue

[Miguel Carro Pellicer]

OK, let me solve this issue for trunk and 10.0QA07, 10.0RC01 will be ok.

Assign me the Jira.

Miguel.

El 29/05/2014 18:52, Neal Caidin escribió:
> +1
>
> -- Neal
>
>
>> Miguel Carro Pellicer <mailto:miguel at educlever.es>
>> May 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM
>> Definetely yes, was a bad solution, but was taken because Mexicans 
>> agreed with this, they prefered to have separate locale and also they 
>> told to complete the es_MX locale. That's why we did that change.
>>
>> +1 to duplicate the "_es_ES" current translation in order to avoid 
>> future problems, maintenance should be copy from "_es_ES" to "_es".
>>
>> Miguel.
>>
>> El 29/05/2014 18:15, Matthew Jones escribió:
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>> Matthew Jones <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
>> May 29, 2014 at 12:15 PM
>> I honestly would say that's this it's unacceptable to have no default 
>> es language. What you're saying is the same as if the US community 
>> said that we wanted to move all of the English translations from en 
>> to en_US and then have no default fallback language at all in Sakai. 
>> That just doesn't make any sense at all and it wouldn't happen. As it 
>> would break also break people who are overriding Australia, Canada, 
>> New Zealand, South Africa and UK.
>>
>> It just isn't a good solution for the community.
>>
>> If you could somehow change how java does the fallback to go es_* -> 
>> es_ES -> es then that sounds okay, but I don't know how to do that.
>>
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>> Miguel Carro Pellicer <mailto:miguel at educlever.es>
>> May 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM
>> Hi all,
>>
>> All the spanish community voted to move from "es" to "es_ES" in order 
>> to avoid conflicts and maintain locales separately, that's why we 
>> have done the changes.
>>
>> Miguel.
>>
>> El 29/05/2014 17:49, Matthew Jones escribió:
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>> Matthew Jones <mailto:matthew at longsight.com>
>> May 29, 2014 at 11:49 AM
>> Right, the java locale fallback would be to go
>>
>> es_MX -> es -> en
>>
>> So without an es the text is just appearing in English. I'd 
>> personally be happy with either keeping es_ES in sync or just making 
>> your files from es_ES the default as es and not having an es_ES 
>> variation. You could still select es_ES from the translation menu in 
>> preferences but it would just immediately fallback to es. That would 
>> eliminate having to do changes twice at least. Whatever you decide 
>> though.
>>
>> I think it would be good just in-case other Spanish countries like 
>> es_CO, es_PR or es_AR, etc decide they also want to support a 
>> language with only slight variations, for instance. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Diego del Blanco Orobitg <mailto:diego.delblanco.sakai at gmail.com>
>> May 29, 2014 at 11:38 AM
>> Hi:
>>
>> As now Spanish (from Spain) is "es_ES" and not "es" (as some time 
>> ago), when there is not "es_MX" it uses the default (that is english) 
>> . I think before that "es_MX" searched for "es" when there is not 
>> "es_MX" file (please, if I'm wrong someone can correct me).
>>
>> So, maybe other solution can be duplicate all the "es_ES" files to 
>> "es" and have it as basis for all the spanish translations. better 
>> than mix es_ES with es_MX becuase if we do that, México people won't 
>> know what is missing or not to translate
>>
>> The problem can be to maintain "es" and "es_ES" because we will need 
>> to do changes twice... or always duplicate files when we change in 
>> "es_ES"...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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