[WG: I18N & L10N] I18N support for Role name and Site type

[Steve Swinsburg]

Hi J-F,

The mention of role name and site type looked like the identifiers. If it's
just the labels that sit on top, all is well!

cheers,
S


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Jean-Francois Leveque <
jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I also think the displayed value should be internationalized, not the
> internal value. What made you think one of us thought something else?
>
> J-F
>
>
> On 19/03/2014 11:32, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>
>> IMO these primary identifiers should not be internationalised. The
>> reason for this is that many parts of the code expect this to be a
>> certain value, some even hardcode it. Making this value a moving target
>> *will* cause difficulties. And how will it be handled in multiple
>> locales? What will the code be looking for? This is trouble waiting to
>> happen.
>>
>> In a perfect world these would not be an English string, but would be a
>> number or some other language agnostic identifier. Labels for roles
>> should be translated though so that anything user facing is i18n'ised.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Jean-Francois Leveque
>> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr <mailto:jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Jun,
>>
>>     You could check https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-12397 and
>>     https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22344 which might be the
>> latest
>>     on both i18n of role names and site type labels.
>>
>>     I think lots of us here would like this to be solved.
>>
>>     If the names/labels are internationalized, they could be updated from
>>     database with https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-18678 and
>>     https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/rsmart/messagebundle/
>>     (https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-18984).
>>
>>     Do you mean altering names on a site basis?
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     --
>>     Jean-François
>>     UPMC, Paris
>>
>>     On 19/03/2014 09:34, Gao Jun wrote:
>>      > Hi all,
>>      >
>>      > I'm now working on I18N support for Role name (instructor, student,
>>      > maintain, etc.) and site type(course, project).
>>      > Since many tools use these names with string stored in DB, so a
>>     lot of
>>      > work need to be done.
>>      >
>>      > Up to now, I made I18N support for Role worked under site-manage
>> and
>>      > authz tool, and the todo list is still long.
>>      >
>>      > I wonder if anyone has tried work on this before or any JIRA issue
>>      > already exists.
>>      > If there is no JIRA issue on this, I'll create a new one.
>>      >
>>      > Here is my solution(Role name for example)
>>      > Use a strategy like tool menu, which has default L10N message and
>>     user
>>      > can alter it.
>>      >
>>      > Add a new properties file under folder config/localization
>>      > Add a method getName to Role which use the way like get name of a
>>     tool.
>>      > Modify the corresponding tools to add I18N support.
>>      >
>>      > Is anyone interested in this?
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > --
>>      > Gao Jun
>>      > Fudan University
>>
>
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