[WG: I18N & L10N] Managing translation updates

Jean-Francois Leveque jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr
Thu May 2 05:33:37 PDT 2013

I'm afraid we can't be sure they're all improvements.

The first change to fr_FR I've found, I didn't check the others, did 
overwrite an up-to-date translation with full coverage of one tool and 
reduced its coverage.

This has lead me to become really cautious with the content of the 
translation updates as far as fr_FR is concerned.

The fact that they were merged without asking the locale maintainers is 
also a source of tension between translation maintainers such as the 
fr_FR ones and well-meaning members who did the merges. I'm trying to 
remove the tension while finding a solution that is approved by each 
concerned locale maintainer.

While I don't mind the changes being in trunk right now, I do mind the 
changes making it into a future release without having a chance of being 
reviewed. Rolling back the changes to fr_FR and others locales whose 
maintainers want to review the changes when they can, could enable 
merging the changes to the other locales into 2.9.x.

I'm awaiting locale maintainers' opinions before we do anything, but 
that's the idea I have.



On 30/04/2013 22:06, David Horwitz wrote:
> I'm a bit confused why we would roll back improvements in locales? In the case of Sam in french it is about 50% translated without this patch, search had no French translation. Surely there should be a reason for rolling back a path other than "I should be doing that"
> D
> Sent from my iPad
> On 30 Apr 2013, at 16:35, "Jean-Francois Leveque"<jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>  wrote:
>> Hi all translators (aka locale maintainers),
>> Some time ago, Cris Holdorph provided in JIRA translation updates on behalf of Pearson International.
>> Well-meaning members of the community merged some updates into trunk, some other updates are still Open, Awaiting Review or Closed/Won't Fix.
>> So far the changes that have been committed are only in the official trunk and have not been merged into the official 2.9.x maintenance branch, so we still have time to think and talk about this.
>> Neal Caidin and myself have been able to get information which leads to the following information about locales support, and I need opinions from locale maintainer
>> de     (no maintainer)
>> en_GB     (no maintainer)
>> es/es_ES (opinion from Valerio Cerní is needed)
>> fr_CA     (opinion from Philippe Rancourt is needed)
>> fr_FR     (Jean-François Lévêque requests rollback of changes to fr_FR and submission of changes without updates to fr_FR)
>> it     (no maintainer)
>> ja     (Opinion from Ja Sakai Community is needed)
>> ko     (no maintainer)
>> nl     (no maintainer)
>> pt_BR     (no maintainer)
>> pt_PT     (no maintainer)
>> zh_CN     (Opinion from 高珺 is needed)
>> zh_TW     (Ivan Ho doesn't mind creating JIRA later if updates contain inappropriate translations)
>> Valerio, Philippe, Ja Sakai Community, 高珺, and other locale maintainers I don't know or forgot, what do you think for the locale you're maintaining?
>> I suppose we should keep the changes for the locales that have no maintainer. Do you agree with this?
>> You can check the following list for details, hope I haven't missed any:
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22936    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22937    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22938    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22939    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22940    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22941    Closed/Won't Fix
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22942    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22943    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22944    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22945    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22946    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22947    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22948    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22949    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22950    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22951    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22952    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22953    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22954    Resolved (Michelle Wagner)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22957    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22958    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22959    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22960    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22961    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22962    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22963    Resolved (Steve Swinsburg)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22964    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22965    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22966    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22967    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22968    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22969    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22970    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22971    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2026    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SRCH-108    Resolved (David Horwitz)
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/STAT-334    Awaiting Review
>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/TAG-1    Open
>> Cheers,
>> J-F
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