[WG: I18N & L10N] i18n BOF - stockholm

[John Bush]

well, this guy points out the same limitations I'm seeing:
http://www.javapractices.com/topic/TopicAction.do?Id=208

and another thread on the topic:
http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=360447&tstart=45

I'm usually the last guy to have the "not-built-here" mentality, but  
for me resource bundles are very limiting.   Both spring and struts  
developed alternatives because of these problems.

John Bush
Development Manager
rSmart




On May 6, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:

> I was hoping that resourceloader would head the other direction. That
> is, simply supplying a locale from sakai which I could then use with
> my bundles. It seems like forcing systems to not use the standard
> process of loading i18n strings from properties files would head even
> further away from the industry standard than we already are. For Sakai
> 3 compatible thinking, I would suggest not going this route.
>
> -AZ
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>  
> wrote:
>> This idea is probably somewhat dependent on SAK-12636, SAK-6886, but
>> has anyone ever thought of providing an alternative implementation of
>> ResourceLoader that would let you load the values from the database.
>> I get requests from clients everyday who want to change the
>> instructional text or other verbage.  I've often thought if the
>> bundles could be loaded out of the db, then you could create an admin
>> tool that would let you adjust the values for a locale at runtime.
>> Has an idea like this every been brought up before?  I think its
>> something we might start looking into.
>>
>> John Bush
>> Development Manager
>> rSmart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Frank -- this is a good list of some of the more persistent
>>> problems of the existing sakai architecture. More issues can be  
>>> found
>>> in confluence at http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/x/CkM
>>>
>>> With heavy heart, I wouldn't be able to attend the Boston Sakai
>>> conference this July, but I have asked Anthony Whyte of the Sakai
>>> Foundation to lead an Internationalization BOF. This would be a good
>>> forum to continue the discussion on internationalization. I'll post
>>> more details on this BOF as it becomes available.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Beth
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Benneker, W.F.M. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At the 2nd european sakai conference we had a great BOF identiyfing
>>>> issues with i18n in Sakai 2.5/2.6. We also discussed how to getting
>>>> some workflow out there to settle some of the issues in Sakai 3.
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a photo with some of the issues disusses.
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>> University of Amsterdam
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> Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz at vt.edu)
> Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University
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