[gradebook2-dev] [Building Sakai] gradebook and gradebook2 iRubric integration

[John Bush]

I want to circle back around on this thread.  We've gone a differently
way than lti, one that more closely resembles how turnitin works in
CLE, which I think Sam suggested early on at some point.

We've created an abstraction called a ScoringAgent.
https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/msub/rsmart.com/sakai/trunk/scoring-service/

The idea is that gradebook2, gradebook, assignments, and whatever else
in core sakai would bind to that, in the same way ContentReview
service works.

Then there is an irubric implementation of a ScoringAgent here:
https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/msub/rsmart.com/sakai/trunk/irubric/

We are in the process of refactoring the old iRubric patches to live
under the cover of this paradigm.  Which for the most part really
won't change the user experience at all.  But is a cleaner and
hopefully more acceptable approach to one day including the
ScoringAgent service into core.  There would no longer be any patches
spread out across various modules.  For anyone, not deploying the
irubric impl, nothing would break or seem different in anyway, until
you deploy it and turn it on.  We are even keeping the old irubric
configuration, so that should make the transition very seamless for
anyone already using the patches.

We are handling the gradebook2 pieces of this rework now, eventually
we'd want to refactor the gradebook1 patches as well.

I have a partially working impl now, but there is still more work to
be done.  When I have the gb2 work in a reasonable state I'll ask for
some more eyes.  I might need a little help from gb2 devs along the
way, I'm not much of a gwt expert.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ramesh Sabetiashraf
<ramesh.sabeti at reazon.com> wrote:
> We’re playing around with the LTI tool in 2.9 and it seems that the LTI tool
> can be configured to tie to a single gradebook item.  Is that a correct
> assumption?
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> Thanks,
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> Ramesh
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> From: sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> Severance
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> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:19 AM
> To: Jon Gorrono
> Cc: sakai-dev
> Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] gradebook and gradebook2 iRubric integration
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> The latest LTI code basically has a bunch of API calls that allow tools to
> make, manage and launch LTI placements under tool control.  This is in 2.9
> and easily ported to 2.8 - the post-2.9 trunk code in LTI has a cleaned up
> UI and better integration with Site Info as well.
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> It is how we made LTI work as a core resource type in LessonBuilder.
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> /Chuck
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> On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Jon Gorrono wrote:
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> I don't think this is crazy at all, and is just what I think we had in mind.
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> One thing I wanted to add is that the BLTI version that was targetee for 2.8
> includes a mechanism for pushing and updating grades, so perhaps a ws
> callback would not be necessary. And, IIRC a grade is a number between
> 0 and 1 in the spec.
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> WRT GB2, there are some basic UI components that Ramesh and crew introduced
> in
> their coding and those are good ones in general: a button for updating
> grades (via a 'pull' or request for a 'push') for one. And those bits
> are also relevant to any other tool supplying grades to the sakai
> gradebook (edu-services), so the thought was for GB2 to introduce a
> general mechanism for handling those things. And that mechanism would be
> (and in simpler cases, perhaps not) the BLTI launch mechanism...
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