[gradebook2-dev] Using gradebook2 outside

[Thomas Amsler]

I haven't tried Juan's patch yet but it should work for
Gradebook2ComponentService as well.

- Thomas

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jeffrey Miller.CTR
<Jeffrey.Miller.CTR at usuhs.mil> wrote:
> Just curious, has anyone else taken a look at Juan's patch or tried it?
> Could the same scheme be used for the Gradebook2ComponentService?
>
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>>>> <juanarcadio at um.es> 6/30/2011 2:47 PM >>>
> Hi,
>
> I moved GradebookToolService to the new pack module. In the war module
> I
> set alias (to remain the same ids).
>
> I had a problem in db file with the sessionFactory, concretely with
> hibernate objects like
> "org/sakaiproject/tool/gradebook/Gradebook.hbm.xml". I've got traceback
>
> error when the tomcat starts.
>
> I tried to comment those lines and it was surprising, it seems to work,
>
> I don't know if the commented lines are from an early version that used
>
> hibernate directly, and now it uses the gradebook-service from
> edu-services.
>
> The tool seems to work like before, and now I can use the API in other
>
> tools.
>
> I attach a patch. I must to review it, but it could be a first
> approach
>
> cheers,
> Juan Arcadio.
>
>
>
> El 30/06/2011 18:44, Thomas Amsler escribió:
>> Please see inline comments bellow:
>>
>> I think we should be able to create a component service and
>> add GradebookToolService and Gradebook2ComponentService to it.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:53 AM, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com
>> <mailto:john.bush at rsmart.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     ug, I have the same need.  We need to run through all the sites
> in
>>     a term and export final grades, I thought I was going to be able
>>     to write a quartz job to do that, but realizing what you just
> said
>>     that won't be possible will it.  The name
>>     Gradebook2ComponentServiceImpl threw me cause its not a
> component
>>     or a service in the normal sakai sense anyway.
>>
>>
>> We are not doing a good job in naming/packaging things. As you guys
>> have figured out, some of the names are misleading and don't make
> much
>> sense.
>>
>> I think that we can create a "real Sakai" component service by
>> exposing the GradebookToolService and Gradebook2ComponentService
> APIs.
>> We also need to rename/refactor things so that they make sense w.r.t.
>
>> [DAO, Service, internal, external, client, server]
>>
>>
>>     Exposing this in a component module might take some refactoring,
>>     there are a bunch of org.sakaiproject.gradebook.gwt.client
>>     packages in there, it doesn't look like a clean separation to me.
>
>>
>>
>> The above is one of the maning issues. For example the interfaces
> in:
>>
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook.gwt.client.model.*
>>
>> should just be called:
>>
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook.gwt.model
>>
>> .. because there is a server and client specific implementation. The
>
>> same is true for:
>>
>> org.sakaiproject.gradebook.gwt.client.exceptions.*
>>
>> It would take same refactoring but I think this is a real need so
> that
>> folks can leverage existing gradebook2 services.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> -- Thomas
>>
>>     I'm at a loss here as well, I need something very quickly done,
>>     and this is looking like a much bigger engagement all of a
> sudden.
>>
>>     On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:07 AM, <juanarcadio at um.es
>>     <mailto:juanarcadio at um.es>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>             This is Juan Arcadio, from the University of Murcia
>>         (Spain), we are running Sakai 2.7.1 in limited production
>>         pilot  with Gradebook2 1.3.0 from September 2010, (we had
>>         translated this version of GB2 to Spanish), as soon as
>>         possible we will migrate to Sakai 2.8.0 with GB2 1.5.0
>>
>>             We are developing some custom tools that use gradebook,
>>         and we have had some communication problems with gradebook:
>>
>>             * Writing in gradebook: We cant do it when users have
>>               never acceded gradebook2 in that site, more info in:
>>               https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/GRBK-1059
>>
>>             * Reading from gradebook: Gradebook2 includes new
> features
>>               that can't be acceded using gradebook-service from
>>               indie. The API of Gradebook2 is not avilable outside
> the
>>               tool, Gradebook2 doesn't deploy any items in
> components
>>               and therefore the API can not be used from other tools
>>               in Sakai. We could try to expose the internal API with
> a
>>               component module.
>>
>>         Any suggestions? Anyone has face the same needs?
>>
>>         Best wishes,
>>         Juan Arcadio.
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