[Contrib: Evaluation System] Results of closed evaluations can'tbe viewed by maintains
Daniel Merino
daniel.merino at unavarra.es
Wed Mar 6 04:19:42 PST 2013
Hi everybody.
After going deeply in the code, I have found that the viewable surveys
for instructors/maintains are affected by the setting "Number of days
old can an eval be and still be recently closed".
This is, instructors/maintains can view results for their site's surveys
only if they have been closed in the last X days, when X is set in
global config options.
I don't know if this is written somewhere in the docs, but I had no
idea... maybe it could be a good idea to write in the checkbox
"Instructors in the courses this evaluation is assigned to can view
results the next X days after it is closed", where X is get of tool's
configuration.
Thanks a lot.
Best regards.
Daniel Merino escribió:
> Hi, Nicola and everybody.
>
> We apply in all our sites (projects and courses) the permissions
> recommended in this page:
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/EVALSYS/Setting+up+permissions
>
>
> That is: our teachers/maintains have eval.assign.evaluation,
> eval.be.evaluated and eval.write.template. Our access/students have
> only eval.take.evaluation.
>
> Our idea is that, if one evaluation is configured to allow viewing
> results for maintains and it can be done by access users at one site,
> maintains users of this site can view results once the evaluation has
> been closed. We don't use instructor-specific questions and we don't
> need external users to view results neither.
>
> I have tested this issue in projects and courses, and it seems to
> happen in both. If you need more info, I have a test environment where
> I can change configuration and debug code or database values.
>
> It's odd, as Adam says, that this is working in other places. We are
> using Evalsys 1.3.0. Could this be working in 1.3.x?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> Best regards.
>
> Nicola Monat-Jacobs escribió:
>> Daniel -
>>
>> Do your 'maintain' folks have eval.be.evaluated? Are they like
>> instructors in the project sites or are they more like admins that
>> should see the report but aren't to be evaluated? (Although if you
>> don't have any instructor-specific qs then this isn't really a
>> meaningful distinction.)
>>
>> What I'm saying is, if they have eval.be.evaluated and if you allow
>> instructors access to see the reports of evaluations deployed to
>> their classes, then I imagine this would work. Otherwise, I don't
>> think it would.
>>
>> I've worked with other clients who have evaluation admins that are
>> NOT in the courses and yet still need to see results of certain
>> courses' evaluations even if they haven't created those evaluations
>> themselves. This is, of course, a bit tricky and we've done some work
>> with Eval Hierarchy > Assign Users to make this work. But I don't
>> think that's what you're after here.
>>
>> Mostly, evalsys looks at if you have eval.be.evaluated to determine
>> if it should treat you as an 'instructor' in a course's evaluations
>> but there might be some places where the 'Instructor' role is
>> hard-coded.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Adam Marshall
>> <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> We use 1.3 and regularly share results and we don't seem to have
>> fixed this in order to get it to work. Odd.
>>
>> adam
>>
>>
>>
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>> Daniel Merino
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>> Subject: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Results of closed
>> evaluations can't be viewed by maintains
>>
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> Since we started to use Evaluation System 1.3.0, the configuration
>> option that allows users to see the results of surveys in a site
>> where they are maintains has never worked for us. No matter if it
>> is set in Admin's global configuration or in local survey's
>> options, maintain users only can see results in surveys where they
>> are owners.
>>
>> I have taken a look on JIRA but I can't find if this has been
>> solved somewhere. Also, looking in the source code I don't
>> understand it very well, as it seems to me that this option is
>> hardcoded in ControlEvaluationsProducer.java in the next line:
>>
>> List<EvalEvaluation> evals =
>>
>> evaluationSetupService.getVisibleEvaluationsForUser(commonLogic.getCurrentUserId(),
>>
>> false, false, true);
>>
>> where the second "false" is showNotOwned param.
>>
>> My questions: is working this feature in 1.3.0? If it is not and
>> it has been patched later, do you know where is the related JIRA
>> in which I could start to try to fix it?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance.
>> Best regards.
>> --
>> Daniel Merino Echeverría
>> daniel.merino at unavarra.es <mailto:daniel.merino at unavarra.es>
>> Gestor de teleformación - Centro Superior de Innovación Educativa.
>> Tfno: 948-168489 - Universidad Pública de Navarra.
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Daniel Merino Echeverría
daniel.merino at unavarra.es
Gestor de teleformación - Centro Superior de Innovación Educativa.
Tfno: 948-168489 - Universidad Pública de Navarra.
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