[Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

Wed Jul 24 05:26:10 PDT 2013

I don’t know the difference between a section and a group as we don’t use sections - I thought they were roughly equivalent but I may be way off the mark.

Evalsys has had support for assigning to (what I call) “Internal groups”, (ie, the groups one defines as subsets of site members via site info) for a long time.

We paid Steve Swinsburg to look into this and this is the report he gave us (from evalsys-1075)

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After some discussion on and off list, this is what I have found.

* Sites and groups only appear if the user creating the evaluation is a member of that site/group.
* The checkboxes to select those sites and groups only become active once an 'access' user is in them.
* If you remove the current user from the group, the checkbox becomes deactivated.

Summary: You need to be in the group yourself and have at least one other access type user in the group for the checkbox to be activaed.

This is the same case for the admin user, the admin user must be in a group that also has an access user in it, in order for it to become active. If the admin user is removed, the checkbox is made inactive again. One would think some sort of check could be put in place that says if you are a super user, you can choose any site/group.

Permissions should be setup like so, for both site and group:

maintain:
eval.assign.evaluation
eval.be.evaluated
eval.write.template

access:
eval.take.evaluation

Also, only the group names are shown, not what site they are from. If you have two sites that both have 'group a' in them, it is impossible to tell them apart. The list of sites/groups needs to be formatted a bit to show the differences.

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Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Jones [mailto:bjones86 at uwo.ca] 
Sent: 23 July 2013 17:58
To: Adam Marshall; 'Francois Campbell'
Cc: 'Aaron Zeckoski'; evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: RE: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

AFAIK, Evalsys has no knowledge/support of (CM) sections at all. Which is why I've been working on this for several months :)

Brian Jones
Applications Development
Information Technology Services
Support Services Building, Room 4326
Western University
(519) 661-2111 x86969
bjones86 at uwo.ca

From: Adam Marshall [mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:52 PM
To: Francois Campbell; Brian Jones
Cc: Aaron Zeckoski; evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: RE: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

If anything is said about sections & evaluations, does this also apply to “Internal groups”, ie, the groups one defines as subsets of site members via site info? Or does evalsys differentiate between the 2?

adam

From: Francois Campbell [mailto:francois at opencollab.co.za]
Sent: 23 July 2013 17:13
To: Brian Jones
Cc: Adam Marshall; Aaron Zeckoski; evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

Good Day All.

Sections I am referring to are those displayed in the Section Info tool.

As per Nicola's reply, I have been extensively tweaking with every conceivable EvalSys permission combination. The result is as Nicola explained, the best result was a list of sites the user is already associated to and adhoc groups.

I believe we will need to go with the small-scale solution as was described or create custom adhoc groups as our client implementation of courses and sections is quite interesting. (One site with a few thousand users split into sections )

On 23 July 2013 15:58, Brian Jones <bjones86 at uwo.ca> wrote:
I haven't yet submitted a Jira ticket for it yet, as we're about to do a round of QA testing. Once the testing is completed, I will be submitting a new Jira ticket with patches.

And if you're confused about what sort of 'sections' I'm referring to, I mean sections or "rosters" from the CM tables. I'll be posting a lot more information about this when I actually get to submitting the Jira ticket and patches.

Cheers,

Brian Jones
Applications Development
Information Technology Services
Support Services Building, Room 4326
Western University
(519) 661-2111 x86969
bjones86 at uwo.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Marshall [mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:35 AM
To: Brian Jones; 'Aaron Zeckoski'; 'Francois Campbell'
Cc: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: RE: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

Which jira is this on? https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/EVALSYS-1075 ?

Adam

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[mailto:evaluation-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Brian Jones
Sent: 22 July 2013 15:57
To: 'Aaron Zeckoski'; 'Francois Campbell'
Cc: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

Just an FYI, I've been working for a few months now on making the Evalsys completely section aware. I'm currently in the last phase of cleaning up the code and will be creating/submitting a patch to the community soon.

Cheers,

Brian Jones
Applications Development
Information Technology Services
Support Services Building, Room 4326
Western University
(519) 661-2111 x86969
bjones86 at uwo.ca

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[mailto:evaluation-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Zeckoski
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:50 AM
To: Francois Campbell
Cc: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] Evaluation assignment to course sections

Generally, if you have the evals admin permission (assigned using the
settings) or are a super admin you can assign evaluations.
Also, a user with the "eval.assign" permission in a site can use that site in evaluations (generally represents the idea of an instructor in a course who can create their own evals).

-AZ

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Francois Campbell <francois at opencollab.co.za> wrote:
> Good Day.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a good source of info with regard to allow me 
> to assigning and evaluation to courses/sections.
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