[Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting really long
Paul Dagnall
dagnalpb at notes.udayton.edu
Fri Aug 19 07:22:00 PDT 2011
So I decided to tackle this one. I found a simple way to do it with very
little code but my problem is that my "extra" parameter is not getting
passed into the producer in the ViewParameters list. I have zero experience
with RSF so hopefully I've just missed something simple. Here's what I did.
1.
I created a EvalClosedParameters class to link to ControlEvaluationsProducer
with an extra param named "interval" for the time interval where the user
can choose to see closed evals that are 6, 12, 18, Months old (or all of
them). For this concept test though, I'm just doing 12 months.
2.
I updated control_evaluations.html to have a new link for testing:
<a rsf:id="twelve-month-evals" href="control_evaluations.html">12 Months</a>
3.
I added this toward the bottom of
ControlEvaluationsProducer.fillComponents(..):
UIInternalLink.make(tofill, "twelve-month-evals",
UIMessage.make("controlevaluations.closed.twelve"),
new EvalClosedParameters(VIEW_ID, "12m") );
On the "My evaluations" web page the link gets formed correctly with the
"interval" param being set equal to "12m". But when I click the link, that
interval param does not get added to the ViewParameers in the producer, and
consequently I can't run logic based on the param.
If I can get over this hurdle, I should be able to wrap this up quickly. Any
ideas?
Thanks.
Paul Dagnall
Web Developer
University of Dayton
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk
> wrote:
> The long list of "My Surveys" only affects members of the admin workspace
> which is why we haven't done anything about it yet.
>
> I guess I must bog down the server frequently then!
>
> adam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Eng [mailto:jimeng at umich.edu]
> > Sent: 11 August 2011 16:10
> > To: Adam Marshall
> > Cc: Sean DeMonner; evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org; Verity Allan
> > Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting
> really
> > long
> >
> > Could you turn off that link for everyone, or do your users need to use
> it? In
> > the admin panel, I see this option with a checkbox:
> >
> > Show links to My Evaluations, My Templates, My Items, My Scales
> > and My Email Templates
> >
> > We have that unchecked. Students and Instructors see their current evals
> in
> > the widgets on the summary page. The checkbox to hide those links was
> > added because occasionally an admin user would click on one of those
> links
> > and bog down the server for everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:
> >
> > > I sat bolt upright in bed one night when that thought popped into my
> head
> > but unfortunately this just affects the dashboard "panels" on the
> Evaluations
> > home screen and not the ruddy great list on the My Surveys page. Shame as
> > it did look promising in the dark.
> > >
> > > adam
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Sean DeMonner [mailto:demonner at umich.edu]
> > >> Sent: 11 August 2011 15:51
> > >> To: Adam Marshall
> > >> Cc: Verity Allan; evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting
> really
> > >> long
> > >>
> > >> I seem to recall changing the "Number of days old can an eval be and
> still
> > be
> > >> recently closed" setting at the bottom of the Admin page to make the
> list
> > of
> > >> closed evals shorter. It's been a while since I played with it
> however.
> > Might
> > >> be worth a look.
> > >>
> > >> As Jim mentions we turn the Admin widget off during peak eval time
> > >> because the Admin widget on the Summary page won't load with several
> > >> thousand evals loaded.
> > >>
> > >> SMD.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We will certainly circulate (& commit) a fix when we have one, don't
> hold
> > >> your breath though or you'll faint!
> > >>>
> > >>> adam
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: evaluation-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> evaluation-
> > >>>> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Verity Allan
> > >>>> Sent: 11 August 2011 15:15
> > >>>> To: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list
> getting
> > really
> > >>>> long
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't know of a fix for this; I can unfortunately confirm that it
> will
> > >>>> become impossible to load the surveys in the Evaluation System tool
> in
> > >> the
> > >>>> Admin Workspace, as it will time out. We have well over 10,000
> surveys
> > >>>> now, and while we can administer the options using the
> 'Administrate'
> > >>>> link, the 'My Surveys' link is a no-no. (And during peak survey
> times, My
> > >>>> Current Surveys has hundreds of surveys in and takes ages to load.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This does mean that the only way of finding out about certain
> surveys is
> > >>>> to use the 'become user' tool to 'become' the person who's running
> > the
> > >>>> survey. This is a bit of a pain, but does mean that you can do some
> > >>>> troubleshooting via the UI, rather than via the DB.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I can see that users might well want to look at last year's surveys,
> but
> > >>>> that does leave us with this problem in the Admin Workspace. Maybe
> > >>>> implementing paging of the results would help?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So, while there's a certain amount you can achieve by workarounds,
> it's
> > >>>> pretty inconvenient, and we'd be interested in testing a fix, should
> > >>>> someone come up with one. (We don't currently have time to work on
> > >> one
> > >>>> ourselves.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Verity
> > >>>> CamTools Helpdesk
> > >>>> CARET, University of Cambridge
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:49:47 +0100
> > >>>>> From: Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list
> getting
> > >>>>> really long
> > >>>>> To: Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu>
> > >>>>> Cc: evaluation <evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> > >>>>> Message-ID:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> <DF192BAB00144C48B1B41464F3347A2041A514C3EE at EXMBX05.ad.o
> > >>>> ak.ox.ac.uk>
> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We're not that bothered about clearing out data. It's the number of
> > >> items
> > >>>> on the 'admin' user 'my surveys' page. It is taking 3-4 minutes to
> load
> > and
> > >> I'm
> > >>>> soon that we'll soon see a time out.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> adam
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From: Jim Eng [mailto:jimeng at umich.edu]
> > >>>>> Sent: 11 August 2011 14:37
> > >>>>> To: Adam Marshall
> > >>>>> Cc: Paul Dagnall; evaluation
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list
> getting
> > >> really
> > >>>> long
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We have a different situation than most schools, because our evals
> > are
> > >>>> imported from an external system and administered in Sakai, and the
> > >>>> responses are exported back to the external system, through which
> > >> results
> > >>>> are reported back to instructors and others. After the responses
> are
> > >>>> exported, we delete the data from Sakai, using SQL scripts.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There are dangers inherent in keeping old eval data inside Sakai,
> so
> > we
> > >> now
> > >>>> get rid of it as soon as possible after each term ends.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> That may not match other people's needs, especially if users need
> to
> > >> refer
> > >>>> to results long after an eval closes and there is no external system
> for
> > >>>> archiving and reporting historic data.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would advise that you clean out the old data as early as
> possible,
> > which
> > >>>> would solve the problem you mentioned.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Adam Marshall wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I don't know any way of doing this but for us this is getting to be
> an
> > issue.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We were thinking of doing some work to address this, eg, by
> default,
> > >> only
> > >>>> display surveys from the last 3 months and have a date range
> selector
> > at
> > >> the
> > >>>> top of the page. As a first stage I think we now display the surveys
> in
> > >> reverse
> > >>>> chronological order.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If somebody else has a patch or is intending to do some work then
> > that
> > >>>> would probably suit us?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> To be honest I cant see us having any time to do this in the next
> 3-4
> > >>>> months.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> adam
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From: evaluation-
> > bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:evaluation-
> > >>>> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> [mailto:evaluation-
> > >>>> bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Paul Dagnall
> > >>>>> Sent: 09 August 2011 18:23
> > >>>>> To: evaluation
> > >>>>> Subject: [Contrib: Evaluation System] My Evaluations list getting
> really
> > >> long
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi
> > >>>>> Are there any settings that can be used to control how long the "My
> > >>>> Evaluations" list gets? Other than deleting them I don't see a way
> to
> > trim
> > >> the
> > >>>> list of old Closed Evaluations.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Paul Dagnall
> > >>>>> Web Developer
> > >>>>> University of Dayton
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> > >> ====================================================
> > >> Sean DeMonner, Director, Teaching & Learning, ITS
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