[Contrib: Evaluation System] If a survey is closed and then reopened it loses its original dates

[Adam Marshall]

I concurr!

thanks for helping.

adam


| -----Original Message-----
| From: azeckoski at gmail.com [mailto:azeckoski at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
| Aaron Zeckoski
| Sent: 17 May 2010 12:58
| To: Adam Marshall
| Cc: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
| Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] If a survey is closed and
| then reopened it loses its original dates
| 
| I would recommend that the right solution is to add an option to show
| the results of open surveys rather than trying to change the behavior
| of the close and reopen date handling.
| 
| -AZ
| 
| 
| On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Adam Marshall
| <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
| > Thanks for that explanation. It makes more sense now.
| >
| > The main reason why people close surveys is to see what results have
| been garnered part-way through the survey (fairly common but, if
| possible, we intend to address this by letting people view results of
| open surveys)
| >
| > Adam
| >
| > | -----Original Message-----
| > | From: azeckoski at gmail.com [mailto:azeckoski at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
| > | Aaron Zeckoski
| > | Sent: 17 May 2010 12:30
| > | To: Adam Marshall
| > | Cc: evaluation at collab.sakaiproject.org
| > | Subject: Re: [Contrib: Evaluation System] If a survey is closed and
| > | then reopened it loses its original dates
| > |
| > | To provide the technical background here:
| > | When a survey is forced closed the dates are adjusted so that the
| > | closing date is set for the nearest future minute and the other
| dates
| > | are adjusted to correspond. Since dates completely control the
| state
| > | of an evaluation this is the only way to actually cause one to
| close
| > | early.
| > | When the evaluation is reopened the closing date would be in the
| past
| > | (along with the other dates). To correct for this the system will
| use
| > | the default length controls to set the initial dates and then
| places
| > | the user on the page with the dates directly in front of them and
| > | controls to adjust them.
| > |
| > | As for the issue, I don't really see the problem here. If a user
| > | closes the evaluation then they clearly did not care about the
| dates
| > | anymore so why would they expect them to be retained? If you move
| an
| > | event on your calendar do you expect it to remember all the
| previous
| > | dates it was associated with?
| > |
| > | If you have users closing and reopening evaluations a lot then
| perhaps
| > | there is a reason why they are doing this. I suspect this is the
| real
| > | issue.
| > |
| > | -AZ
| > |
| > |
| > | On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Adam Marshall
| > | <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
| > | > Aaron suggested that I ask the list's opinion on this matter.
| > | >
| > | > Some of our users have complained that when a survey is
| (temporally)
| > | closed and reopened the original closing dates are replaced by the
| > | default close date.
| > | >
| > | > Say today is the 17 may (which it is). Set up a survey and change
| the
| > | default close date (say 20 may) to be 18 June, assign it to a group
| and
| > | so on.
| > | >
| > | > Then go into the dashboard and close survey then go back and re-
| open.
| > | The survey close date will now NOT be 18 June but will be set to
| the
| > | default close date (20 may).
| > | >
| > | > We find this to be counter intuitive and has caused problems with
| > | people not noticing that the close date has been silently brought
| > | forward.
| > | >
| > | > I would propose that the original dates be kept when a survey is
| > | closed & reopened. Is there any good reason why this shouldn't be
| the
| > | case?
| > | >
| > | > Adam
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| > |
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| >
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