[Contrib: Evaluation System] How to add evaluatees?

[Aaron Zeckoski]

The eval group provider was designed with external groups and things
like CM in mind. There is no seamless integration but someone could
write an eval group provider that gets data from the course management
stuff. This would be the best way to handle things for Will's issue.

-AZ


On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Will Humphries<whumphri at vt.edu> wrote:
> Sorry to chime in late. In my experience I've been unable to assign an
> evaluation to a group created by the CM impl. I think setting
> eval.be.evaluated for instructors in !realm.template.course will allow
> those instructors to be evaluated, but I don't think it will let me
> assign an evaluation to a roster that's been imported to a site - only
> to ad-hoc groups.
>
> It'd be handy if we could assign an evaluation to a CM roster
> independant of any site. For example a university might want an
> evaluation to go out to a set of courses that don't otherwise use Sakai.
> It'd be nice if those courses weren't forced to have a Sakai site. I
> think that might be the work Jim was describing.
>
> -Will
>
> Stephen Marquard wrote:
>> Maybe I'm missing something (never having used an EvalGroupProvider), but how would this be different to just setting the default realm permissions in the !realm.template.course realm appropriately using trunk with the sample CM impl ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>>>>> Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> 8/12/2009 5:58 PM >>>
>>>>>
>> Sounds like the easiest way to deal with this is to create a simple
>> EvalGroupProvider impl that defines groups and permissions based on
>> rosters provided by the sample CM impl.  As Dick said, that would make
>> development and debugger easier.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Marquard wrote:
>>
>>
>>> In trunk, the evaluatee instructors should be those users in the
>>> site to which it's assigned who have a role with the
>>> eval.be.evaluated permission.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it's different for ad-hoc groups though. I'm not too
>>> familiar with the trunk code around that as this is one of the areas
>>> where our branch diverges.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> 8/12/2009 5:48 PM >>>
>>>>>>
>>> I am running eval trunk in sakai trunk. I have created a sample course
>>> site ("SMPL101" the sample CM impl for the current term) and added the
>>> eval tool to that site.
>>>
>>> Within the eval tool, I created a template with two questions related
>>> to the class and two questions related to the instructor.  Then I
>>> created an evaluation based on that template and tried to assign
>>> groups for the evaluation, and in particular I would like to designate
>>> an instructor who will be evaluated.  That's where I'm having trouble.
>>>
>>> I added an ad hoc group with a few students and a few instructors from
>>> the SMPL 101 roster. That works.  But I cannot find any place where I
>>> can designate an instructor to be evaluated.  In Michigan's CTools
>>> impl, that would come from the provider, but how do I get that to work
>>> here?
>>>
>>> Also, has anyone created a sample eval-group provider that will lets
>>> you choose the sample eval-groups corresponding to the courses offered
>>> through the sample CM impl?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jim
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