[samigo-team] Samigo meeting today? (April 1)

Jim Mezzanotte jmezzanotte at anisakai.com
Tue Apr 1 11:28:02 PDT 2014


Thanks Karen--maybe a meeting in May? It could be useful to review Samigo
for Sakai 10 and moving forward.

Best,
Jim


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> I just confirmed with Keli. There is no Samigo meeting today.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Jim Mezzanotte <jmezzanotte at anisakai.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just want to confirm--are we having a Samigo meeting today, April 1?
>>
>> Best,
>> Jim Mezzanotte
>> Asahi Net International
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:48 AM, <
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>>>    1. Re: EMI issues for Sakai 10 (Karen Tsao)
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>>>       (RAUL SANCHEZ VEGAS)
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
>>> To: Jaques Smith <jaques at opencollab.co.za>
>>> Cc: Samigo Team <samigo-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:20:19 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [samigo-team] EMI issues for Sakai 10
>>>  Hi Jaques,
>>>
>>> I have merged SAM-2018, SAM-2292, and SAM-2293. Please verify it in
>>> nightly and so I can merge them into 10x branch.
>>>
>>> I have added some comments in SAM-2295, please let me know what you
>>> think.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Jaques Smith <jaques at opencollab.co.za>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Karen.
>>>>
>>>> *Jaques Smith*
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>>>> On 31 March 2014 20:37, Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will merge them in trunk and Sakai 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Karen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Jaques Smith <jaques at opencollab.co.za
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Samigo Team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not 100% sure what is the next step here, please let me know.
>>>>>> The issues below are updated with new patches. How do we go about
>>>>>> getting it in trunk and Sakai 10?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2018
>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2292
>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2293
>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2295 (Cannot enter numbers
>>>>>> and the validation message was updated in SAM-2292)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Jaques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 March 2014 14:05, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI Jaques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess the next step is for the Samigo team to review your patches
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2018
>>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAM-2292
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps it should be assigned to the Samigo team ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Neal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Jaques Smith <jaques at opencollab.co.za>
>>>>>>>  March 19, 2014 at 4:06 AM
>>>>>>> Hi Neal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who do I assign the Jiras too when done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> *Jaques Smith*
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>   Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>>>>  March 11, 2014 at 8:16 AM
>>>>>>>  Cool. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Neal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Jaques Smith <jaques at opencollab.co.za>
>>>>>>>  March 11, 2014 at 3:04 AM
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yip, Stephen and I will chat and I'll get on it. Just need to get
>>>>>>> some conferences out of the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> *Jaques Smith*
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>>>>>>>   Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>
>>>>>>>  March 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of them isn't an EMI issue, one looks trivial (the UI labels),
>>>>>>> and the other two I'll discuss with Jacques tomorrow, as we're both at the
>>>>>>> Sakai SA conference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Lydia Li [lydial at stanford.edu]
>>>>>>> Sent: 10 March 2014 05:13 PM
>>>>>>> To: Neal Caidin
>>>>>>> Cc: Karen Tsao; Stephen Marquard; Jaques Smith
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: EMI issues for Sakai 10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are probably the best person to work on these since you are most
>>>>>>> familiar with the code. Could you please review these JIRAs and see if you
>>>>>>> need help with any?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Lydia
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>   Lydia Li <lydial at stanford.edu>
>>>>>>>  March 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM
>>>>>>> Jacques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are probably the best person to work on these since you are most
>>>>>>> familiar with the code. Could you please review these JIRAs and see if you
>>>>>>> need help with any?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Lydia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: RAUL SANCHEZ VEGAS <raulsv at um.es>
>>> To: Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>, Keli Sato Amann <
>>> kamann at stanford.edu>
>>> Cc: Samigo Team <samigo-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:47:59 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [samigo-team] Some points for Samigo meeting tomorrow, 1th
>>> of April
>>>  Hi all
>>>
>>> We totally agree. So the Jiras SAM-2212/2213 could be reviewed in a
>>> month at the next Samigo meeting in May. The SAM-2212/2213 patches are
>>> currently working in our production.
>>>
>>> See you at the next meeting.
>>> Thanks, Raúl
>>>
>>>
>>> El 01/04/2014 1:22, Karen Tsao escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi Raul,
>>>
>>>  The first JIRA from your list is a new feature. As the feature freeze
>>> has past, we can merge it into trunk now and so it will be in 11.
>>>
>>>  I think the other two JIRA are bugs. I will take a look your patch of
>>> SAM-1606.  Regarding SAM-2291, the same behavior happens in Matching
>>> question type too. I guess we need to add a sort function to correct it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Keli Sato Amann <kamann at stanford.edu>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Raul
>>>> Unfortunately, Sakai 10 is only taking bug fixes at this point, not new
>>>> features--we are already several qa releases in already.
>>>> We are a little busy on this end, as we launched a new local project
>>>> last week but if others want to get on the call for pressing business,
>>>> that's fine. Otherwise, if others chime in as interested, we can review
>>>> this in a month for a future release.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Keli Amann
>>>> User Experience Specialist
>>>> Academic Computing Services, Stanford University
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RAUL SANCHEZ VEGAS" <raulsv at um.es>
>>>> To: "Samigo Team" <samigo-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 5:59:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [samigo-team] Some points for Samigo meeting tomorrow, 1th of
>>>> April
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm if there will be a Samigo meeting tomorrow, 1th of
>>>> April?
>>>>
>>>> We would like to get some discussion over the following jiras:
>>>>
>>>> 1. SAM-2212/SAM-2213 (image1.jpg/image2.jpg): Including negative point
>>>> value to both "Multiple Correct, Single Selection" and "All or Nothing"
>>>> questions. We have modified both patches in the way you suggested in the
>>>> 3th of December meeting (e-mail below).
>>>>
>>>> 2. SAM-1606: Exported assessment:
>>>>
>>>> - If the question text has a non-image reference it fails when
>>>> Instructor tries to import it.
>>>> - If the question text has an image reference which source has blanks,
>>>> the character '+' or accents marks(ie á, é, í) it fails when Instructor
>>>> tries to import it.
>>>>
>>>> 3. SAM-2291 (export.jpg): Survey Matrix Answers exported to an Excel
>>>> File. If the student has answered 1: d, 2: b, 3: c, 4: a, the Excel
>>>> contains: 4: a, 2: b, 3: c, 1: d.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone interested?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Raúl
>>>>
>>>> -------- Mensaje original --------
>>>> Asunto:         [Building Sakai] Some points from yesterday's samigo
>>>> meeting
>>>> Fecha:  Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:32:46 +0100
>>>> De:     RAUL SANCHEZ VEGAS <raulsv at um.es>
>>>> Organización:   Universidad de Murcia
>>>> Para:   Samigo Team <samigo-team at collab.sakaiproject.org> , sakai-dev <
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> First of all, thank you all for your time yesterday at the samigo
>>>> meeting where we had the opportunity to discuss the Jira's SAM-2212 and
>>>> SAM-2213.
>>>>
>>>> Both Jiras are related and they include the negative point value to
>>>> "Multiple Correct, Single Selection" and "Multiple Correct, Multiple
>>>> Selection" questions.
>>>>
>>>> After all your comments, we have re-discussed the functionality and
>>>> here is our proposal:
>>>>
>>>>  1- For SAM-2212 , move the negative point value field under the
>>>> question title(e.g. image1.jpg).
>>>>
>>>> 2- For SAM-2213 , move the negative point value field under the
>>>> question title(e.g. image2.jpg).
>>>>
>>>> 3 - For SAM-2213 , the questions "Right Less Wrong" won't include
>>>> negative point value because our patch changes the correction behaviour of
>>>> this type of question.
>>>>
>>>> 4 - Consider for inclusion a new type of question under "All or
>>>> Nothing" option, called " Proportional " which has the behaviour explained
>>>> below(image3.jpg) and discussed in the call. The University of Murcia uses
>>>> a special software for grading OMR (Optical Mark Reader) exams and it
>>>> includes this type of grading. Its quite popular for instructors and they
>>>> encouraged us to develop this functionality also in Samigo. We made the
>>>> mistake to mix it with the 'Right Less Wrong' questions but as seen
>>>> yesterday, its definetly a different way of grading. We have the Spanish
>>>> name for it, but we will need help to find the right translation to english.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a description of how this new functionality will work:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question: MC, Multiple Selection type " Proportional ":
>>>> Score 1point
>>>> Negative point value: 0.25
>>>>
>>>> Option A
>>>> Option B
>>>> Option C
>>>>
>>>> Solution A,B
>>>>
>>>> If student selects A, B, he gets full credit: 1 point.
>>>> If student selects A, he gets 1/2 credit: 0.5 points.
>>>> If student selects C, regardless of what other options have been
>>>> selected(A or B) he gets -0.25 because he has selected the wrong answer.
>>>>
>>>> We have modified the Jira's screenshots to be consistent with it.
>>>>
>>>>  On the other hand, we have created a new Jira( SAM-2252 ) with the
>>>> issue of "editassessment.own" permission as we agreed in yesterday's
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Raúl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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