[sakai2-tcc] Roster2 to replace Roster

Mon Sep 16 04:08:40 PDT 2013

Does this mean that some changes will be made to Roster2 and it will be targeted for 2.10/Trunk? 

Thanks,
Neal

Neal Caidin
Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
neal.caidin at apereo.org
Skype: nealkdin
Twitter: ncaidin

On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:40 AM, Adrian Fish <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alright, already ... :)
> 
> If it's not JIRA'd, could one of you fine fellows raise a ticket? I like Matthew's generic REST target idea; it does sound like people have done this a couple of ways, so standardising going forward makes sense.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian.
> 
> 
> On 13 September 2013 15:35, John Bush <jbush at anisakai.com> wrote:
> Right that is the other benefit, anyone who just talks in English and
> wants to change the instructional text on the site editor page...
> Problem solved.  Without that you end with forked nightmares, been
> there done that.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> wrote:
> > We are making heavy use of the dynamic translations. If you're just one
> > school, maybe it's not a huge time saver but it is for managing dozens.
> > Still the flexibility it gives for a single school (being able to put up a
> > clarifications, warnings or new information immediately) is pretty great. It
> > saves on a lot of code changes, keeping custom forks up dated and providing
> > much quicker fixes. Even though there was a bug where it was going to the DB
> > a lot more than expected (soon to be fixed in 2.9.x SAK-23887), it was still
> > worth it to save on the code changes/redeploys. So i'd say having this
> > feature consistent for everything is a good thing.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Adrian Fish <adrian.r.fish at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> There's also jquery's way:
> >>
> >> https://code.google.com/p/jquery-i18n-properties
> >>
> >> It uses standard java property files so translations can handled with the
> >> same tools. It doesn't solve the dynamic updating of i18n props though. How
> >> important is that though? How often do people actually need to dynamically
> >> update translations, and is it worth the overhead of hitting the db or cache
> >> to get them?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Adrian.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13 September 2013 15:10, John Bush <jbush at anisakai.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There's at least one thing I'd like to see addressed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/roster2/trunk/roster-app/src/webapp/roster-translations-ca.js
> >>>
> >>> I don't find that an acceptable way of doing localization.  Its not
> >>> consistent with the rest of Sakai, and it won't work with the dynamic
> >>> manipulation of bundles.  It makes it harder for anyone who is used to
> >>> working with properties to maintain this stuff, since tools won't
> >>> support this arbitrary js format.
> >>>
> >>> It easy to address, I had to do it for gb2.  You need to just create a
> >>> servlet that loads this the data from the ResourceLoader and then
> >>> transforms it into your javascript format.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I'd like verification that there aren't any FERPA issues
> >>> introduced.   I see https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/RSTR-16, but
> >>> its worth asking just to be sure.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Steve Swinsburg
> >>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I proposed it years ago. Better integration, better support, more
> >>> > features, same UI as old roster tool.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers,
> >>> > S
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent from my iPad
> >>> >
> >>> > On 13/09/2013, at 23:45, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Those notes were from the conference back in June and have just been
> >>> >> slightly reorganized. I am not sure who proposed replacing roster with
> >>> >> roster 2 but maybe that person can add the reasoning. I am not aware
> >>> >> of anything myself.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:31 AM, May, Megan Marie <mmmay at iu.edu>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> I don’t see rationale in the notes.   Can you please provide
> >>> >>> something
> >>> >>> substantial for those of us not on the call?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> >>> >>> [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Neal
> >>> >>> Caidin
> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:37 AM
> >>> >>> To: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org 2
> >>> >>> Subject: [sakai2-tcc] Roster2 to replace Roster
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> From the TCC - CLECC call -
> >>> >>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/TCC+CLE+Action+Items
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> For the folks on the call, there was consensus that Roster2 should
> >>> >>> replace
> >>> >>> Roster for 2.10/trunk.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Steve Swinsburg says this is not a lot of work to make happen.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Consensus on this one?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Cheers,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Neal
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Neal Caidin
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
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