[sakai2-tcc] Counting Tools

Fri May 3 07:29:14 PDT 2013

But having a tool in a site is not equivalent to it being used. Also,
this will ignore tools that are mostly used in workspaces
institutions.
I still think looking at events is a better measure.
No database query will be perfect of course, but it seems like we can
to better than just counting the tools in sites. Something event or
activity based is going to be more representative.
Are we really going to believe Site Info is the most popular tool
simply because it is in every site? (maybe it is)

-AZ

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Steve Swinsburg
<steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct, since every tool stores content differently. Unless an event was
> fired on access of every tool that you could crossmatch and search for, but
> is accessing a tool 'using' a tool? Or is creating content in the tool using
> the tool?
>
> You could use the capabilities in sitestats to create a report perhaps,
> since many people truncate their event tables, though that requires more
> effort on the institution's part. The SQL that John posted is an expanded
> version of the SQL I posted and should give a decent indication of tool
> availability.
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
>
> On 03/05/2013, at 1:20 AM, Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> That would give you the count of tools in sites, but not necessarily if they
> have been used, correct?
>
> Cheers,
> Neal
>
> On May 2, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Heres a query for both MySQL and Oracle to get the count of tools across the
> whole install:
>
> SELECT
>   registration
> , count(*) site_count
> FROM sakai_site_tool
> WHERE site_id NOT LIKE '~%'
> AND site_id NOT LIKE '!%'
> GROUP BY registration
> ORDER BY site_count DESC
>
> Gives results like:
>
> sakai.resources 10
> sakai.siteinfo 9
> sakai.assignment.grades 8
> sakai.forums 8
> sakai.gradebook.tool 8
> sakai.announcements 8
> sakai.messages 8
> sakai.schedule 8
> sakai.syllabus 8
> sakai.iframe.site 7
> sakai.summary.calendar 6
> sakai.synoptic.announcement 6
> sakai.synoptic.messagecenter 6
> sakai.metaobj 1
> sakai.repository 1
> sakai.sitestats 1
> osp.presLayout 1
> sakai.news 1
> osp.presentation 1
> nyu.libraries 1
> osp.presTemplate 1
> osp.glossary 1
> osp.style 1
> sakai.mailbox 1
>
> cheers,
> S
>
> On 02/05/2013, at 11:51 PM, Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> TCC,
>
> FYI - this is related to TCC - CLECC meeting yesterday.  I'm drafting up a
> Tools survey for TCC to review.  We thought it would be a good idea to give
> institutions an option to run a query instead, and send us the data for
> review. Each participating institution has the option to fill out the
> survey, or run a query we provide and send us the data, or both.
>
> More notes on yesterdays TCC - CLECC coming soon.
>
> Cheers,
> Neal
>
>
> On May 2, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> Steve has a simple query for events, but nothing which will give us a
> straight count of tools. I think we don't need to parse out the Resources
> events, since it's a given that this is a core tool. The events counts would
> have to be parsed to provide counts by tools. I could probably write a quick
> perl script to do this if we think this would be useful.
>
> - Beth
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Steve Lonn <slonn at umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: SQL Query for Popular Counts
> Date: May 1, 2013 1:37:06 PM EDT
> To: Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have a query that groups by tool (and remember
> there's some "noise" in resources - have to parse out Drop Box and
> attachments (if you want to count Announcements attachments, for example, as
> the Announcements tool and not Resources).
>
> Here's the query for all events, aggregated by event type  (this example has
> a date modifier - you should be very clear what timeframe your group wants):
>
> select count( sakai_event.event), sakai_event.event
> from sakai_event
> and event_date >= to_date('20130101 00:00','YYYYMMDD HH24:MI')
> and event_date < to_date('20130501 00:00','YYYYMMDD HH24:MI')
> group by sakai_event.event;
>
>
> To parse DROPBOX from RESOURCES, you need this kind of query:
>
> select count (CASE WHEN EVENT in ('content.available', 'content.delete',
> 'content.new', 'content.revise', 'content.read') and substr(REF, 1, 14) =
> '/content/group' THEN 'RESOURCES COUNT' END) as "RESOURCES",
> count (CASE WHEN EVENT in ('content.available', 'content.delete',
> 'content.new', 'content.revise', 'content.read') and substr(REF, 1, 20) =
> '/content/attachment/' THEN 'ATTACHMENTS' END) as "ATTACHMENTS",
> count (CASE WHEN EVENT in ('content.available', 'content.delete',
> 'content.new', 'content.revise', 'content.read') and substr(REF, 1, 14) =
> '/content/user/' THEN 'DROPBOX' END) as "DROPBOX", event
> from sakai_event
> where event_date >= to_date('20130101 00:00','YYYYMMDD HH24:MI')
> and event_date < to_date('20130501 00:00','YYYYMMDD HH24:MI')
> and event in ('content.available', 'content.delete', 'content.new',
> 'content.revise', 'content.read')
> group by sakai_event.event;
>
> FYI, here's the most recent list of sakai events by tool that I made -- this
> needs to be updated for 2.9 (volunteers?)
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/UDAT/Sakai+2.7.x+Event+Table+Descriptions
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> The Sakai TCC would like to ask the community to run a query to see which
>> tools are the most popular tools - I thought you might have a query that
>> figures out these counts? If you do, can you send it my way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Beth
>>
>
>
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