[sakai2-tcc] [Building Sakai] New Feature Request: Syllabus Table of Contents View

[May, Megan Marie]

I don't think there needs to be a vote on it.    If you haven't already, might want to tap the accessibility group for a review.

Megan

From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Holladay
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:49 AM
To: Neal Caidin
Cc: Sakai 2 Technical Coordination Committee; Sakai Development (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org)
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] [Building Sakai] New Feature Request: Syllabus Table of Contents View

Thanks Neal for starting the conversations on the other list.  I've only seen good comments about this feature.

Does this need a vote since there have been no objections?  If not, I can put this in trunk and begin testing.

Thanks,
Bryan

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org<mailto:nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org>> wrote:
Okay, I understand your concern about design by committee, but I'll go ahead and see what the other lists think and be happy to take responsibility for expectation setting.

-- Neal

On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com<mailto:holladay at longsight.com>> wrote:


>How about the print option? What's that do with this new stuff?

I didn't touch the print page.  It looks the same (one long page)

>Why not ask some of our other lists?

Feel free to include those lists (I don't think I'm a subscriber to all of them).  I would be worried about the "design by committee" aspect.  This is why I started this conversation with the TCC list


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Gordon, Patricia (psg3a) <psg3a at eservices.virginia.edu<mailto:psg3a at eservices.virginia.edu>> wrote:
Neal,

I agree with your assessment - it's intended to be a Table of Contents, so it should be collapsed in order to see the TOC at a glance. Perhaps the only property should be whether to enable this feature or not.

My $.02.
---
Trisha Gordon
UVaCollab User Support Manager
University of Virginia
http://collab.virginia.edu/

From: Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org<mailto:nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org>>
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:22 PM
To: Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com<mailto:holladay at longsight.com>>
Cc: Sakai 2 Technical Coordination Committee <sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>>, sakai-dev <sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>>
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] [sakai2-tcc] New Feature Request: Syllabus Table of Contents View

We are a property-crazy community.

I agree with Bryan that in this context it probably makes sense to see it all collapsed, nothing expanded by default, because it is a table of contents, so in that sense you do see what you need to see without clicking.

Why not ask some of our other lists?

pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>
openforum at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:openforum at collab.sakaiproject.org>
end-user-support at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:end-user-support at collab.sakaiproject.org>
sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>

I appreciate the properties options, but I think they are a little out of control. If anyone has ideas for making properties a more sane proposition, I, for one, would be interested in hearing it.

Cheers,
Neal

On Mar 12, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com<mailto:holladay at longsight.com>> wrote:


By default I've set it to all collapsed, but there is a simple option in the jquery accordion initialization where you can set which item is open by default.

So short answer, yes, it would be easy to add that.  I personally think that having them all collapsed makes more sense (especially if you think about later in the semester).  Instead of having to click 1 extra time, they'd have to scroll a bunch to get to the other items (which seems worse)

But sakai love's their options, so I can have it collapsed by default with a property to allow the first one to be open.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net<mailto:azeckoski at unicon.net>> wrote:
Is there an option to have the first one open or all open by default?
I used to hear many complaints from users when they had to do a single
extra click and this UI seems to mean that the user might have to do
many clicks to get at the info in the syllabus.

How about the print option? What's that do with this new stuff?

Has anyone asked anyone on the Sakai users list (like some teachers)
if they would prefer this change? How about some students?
(Outside Columbia I mean)

-AZ


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com<mailto:holladay at longsight.com>> wrote:
> I have completed the work on a new feature in the Syllabus tool and wanted
> to see if the community is interested in it (sponsored by Columbia).
>
> It essentially re-designs the landing page to have more of a Table of
> Contents feel rather than having a long 90's HTML page.  I used the jquery
> accordion widget with the same UI as Samigo's accordion setting's page, so
> this keeps with existing UI look and feel.
>
> I also have it so it automatically scrolls to the opened item (both in
> portal or tool view).
>
> Here is a screen cast of the feature: http://screencast.com/t/kK7UGzXu
>
> Jira is https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23342
>
> I can put this into trunk if we are interested and want to test it.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
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