[sakai2-tcc] Infrastructure discussion for future meeting?

[Charles Severance]

On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Steve Swinsburg wrote:

> I get the under resourced issue, but my concern is when a new project goes thorough the incubation process and needs to meet requirement X to graduate, it may be that the CLE or other flagship product doesn't meet that requirement. So it will be inconsistent and unfair to that new project, just because these projects were grandfathered in. It would be ideal to hold all projects to the same quality levels.

Steve, the problem is one of tone here.  Like all things in open source volunteer communities, incubation needs to find its place and bring its value.  I would strongly suggest that you stop trying to get this group to agree to anything w.r.t incubation before it even exists.  So far the greatest impediment to a good relationship between the as-yet-unformed incubation group and the Sakai 2 TCC is the way you persist in arguing about it.

If I were another open source project listening to this public conversation I would not even consider being part of Apereo given how strident you seem about incubation as "the keepers of the gate" and not as helpful resources to help projects make make the transition into Apereo.   When I have talked to people within the Apache organization about incubation they were eager to help us get through it - they put a very friendly face on Apache - I was surprised and pleased at how much they kept saying they could help with things that I was not an expert on. They were the "acquisitions arm" of Apache and they were *really nice* and *really friendly*.

I am 100% sure your intentions are good and 100% sure that Apereo incubation will be a fine process - but in the interim, the tone of your public statements are making Apereo and Sakai look bad.  And as long as you persist in making these statements - we will continue to challenge them because we do not want to imply that silence is assent.  At this point everyone (including you) has all made points once or twice - now we are just going in circles and wasting time.

/Chuck
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