[sakai2-tcc] [cle-release-team] New LTI for 2.9.3

[Noah Botimer]

Agreed on 2.9.3. Lock it down and get it out.

What I'm really wondering about is some credible coordination around the next release ~now, rather than in October.

Maybe I see it a little differently as a developer-type but, to me, "not in this release" equates to feature/fix purgatory.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:57 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:

> There are currently pretty nasty bugs in the latest release that pertain to grading.   IMHO, getting a newer version out there should be the priority (and if I am understanding correctly, what the release team is trying to do).  
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> Fwiw we also rehash release mgmt. strategy each time something becomes debatable; making everything drag out longer. 
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> From: Noah Botimer [mailto:botimer at umich.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:52 PM
> To: May, Megan Marie
> Cc: Neal Caidin; Charles Severance; sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org 2; cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [cle-release-team] [sakai2-tcc] New LTI for 2.9.3
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> Maybe... But our classic release risk management strategy* leaves adopters in a pinch. If we have no identified plan for 2.9.4, we fall back into the "run the branch" mantra. This is the same self-defeat cycle our releases have suffered for years.
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> I'm not saying the maintenance branch should get 50 patches the day before a release, but realistically, I don't see 2.9.4 shaping up before 2014 unless some priorities and processes are adjusted. I'd have to look at the survey results, but I'd give it a 50/50 chance that someone will run a release to start 2014 -- and they'll either be on some homegrown release point with unknown fixes, or they'll be missing stuff that is done in early July. I don't anticipate any two major deployments using the same starting point.
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> Maybe it's time to get serious about solving this?
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> Thanks,
> -Noah
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> * Loose for a long time, then very strict for about a month before release, followed by a long window of "other concerns".
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> On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:57 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:
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> It’s pretty late to be talking about changes for 2.9.3 . . . I’d encourage inclusion in the branch *after* 2.9.3 is cut.  
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> Gotta manage the scope J
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> From: cle-release-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:cle-release-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Neal Caidin
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:17 PM
> To: Charles Severance
> Cc: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org 2; cle-release-team at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [cle-release-team] [sakai2-tcc] New LTI for 2.9.3
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> urgg… sorry. My Mac just seems to want to randomly send unfinished emails (well, okay probably user error , but I cannot figure out what I'm doing!)
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> In any case, I was going to say that of these issues, the main one that I have a concern about is 
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> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/BLTI-238
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> because of the "Not Null" constraint removal. Are we sure that auto.dll will take care of this update and not require a conversion script?
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> Also, do you know of any available LTI testers who can help with QA?
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> Thanks!
> Neal
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> On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
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> Hi Chuck,
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> The main concern is that they get sufficient testing, in a timely way. I don't think we would want to hold up 2.9.3 for these fixes but it would be good to get them in. 
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> The 
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> Thanks,
> Neal
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> On Jul 9, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
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> They are on the way to the branch and I am running them in production on my Blackboard servers.   Not heavy production - but I am testing them.
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> /Chuck
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> On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
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> Only possible concern is that this might introduce a regression. Has
> this stuff been tested thoroughly or even better, already in use in
> production somewhere?
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> Looks like these are not in 2.9.x yet. Is that right?
> -AZ
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