[sakai2-tcc] CLE 2.9.4 vs CLE 2.10 effort

Fri Aug 30 06:18:53 PDT 2013

It's hard to imagine Hiroyuki Sakai, the "Delacroix of French cuisine" and our namesake, serving up a Bavarian Creme, unless he appeared in cartoon form on "The Simpsons."  I offer in support of this assertion his menu, pulled from a photo, circa 2011, suggesting a rather different culinary experience than what one would find at Tim Horton's (which to its credit is linked to hockey) or a donut shop [1].  Also recount Iron Chef Sakai's many "battle" honors, none of which involved a donut [2].

A donut-themed release?   Oh the humanity.

Sakai's La Rochelle menu (2011) [1]

Lobster stuffed Fruit tomate with Sauternes wine jelly and Mango sauce

Pan fried Scallop with truffle flavor and sauteed White asparagus

Sauteed Foie gras and simmered Daikon radish with Sesame flavor sauce

Simmered Abalone, Fresh Sea urchin with Vegetable jelly

Seasonal vegetable soup or Sorbet

Today's Seafood or Grilled Japanese beef

Grand Dessert "La Rochelle"

Coffee or Tea

[1] http://www.vodkitchen.com/meeting-iron-chef-sakai-at-la-rochelle-tokyo/; see also http://www.la-rochelle.co.jp/english/.  At least one location is reported to have closed.
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuki_Sakai

anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan | arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228

On Aug 30, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:

>> I was wondering why you think that donut or pudding names might be attractive to a Provost when pitching Sakai?
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> On Aug 30, 2013, at 8:29 AM, "Mark J. Norton" <markjnorton at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> >  I do think it would be good to get some reaction to the community on any name change, just to be able to anticipate the response, if nothing else.
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>> I was wondering why you think that donut or pudding names might be attractive to a Provost when pitching Sakai?  Personally, I think we should stay with the number system.  I prefer 4.0 since Sakai has made a lot of progress in the past few years.  The version numbers should reflect it's maturity, IMO.
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>> I agree with Chuck, as well.  This release should have some major functional improvements.  Let's tackle some of the big ticket items that have languishing in Jira.  Also, give it a decent amount of time - a year at least.
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>> That said, if you want to use code names for a release, then Sakai Maple Bacon, by all means!  Just release it as 4.0, please.
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>> - Mark Norton
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>> On 8/30/2013 8:14 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>> AFAIK the TCC / PMC leanings are towards a number for the release. It seemed to me like there was some momentum towards a Sakai 4, skipping over Sakai 3 for the obvious (to this crowd) reasons. That being said, I think donut flavor themes, not stores,  would be awesome! Sakai Bavarian Creme, Sakai Raspberry Jelly, Sakai Maple Bacon. Mmmm mmm good. Okay, I guess that is not *that* different from pudding themes. 
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>>> I do think it would be good to get some reaction to the community on any name change, just to be able to anticipate the response, if nothing else.
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>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Charles Severance <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
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>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Hi all,
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>>>>> If we focus on 2.10 and don't have resources for a full 2.9.4 release at this time then we should continue to merge to 2.9.x where appropriate - at some point in the future we could cut a 2.9.4 release. This goes directly to the goal that the branch is in a constantly releasable state.
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>>>> This fits my thinking.  In effect we will almost certainly end up with a 2.9.4 one way or another - the question is it really just critical bug fixes that get merged or do we push non-trivial functionality into 2.9.4 like we have in 2.9.3 and 2.9.2.
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>>>> In particular if agree that the primary focus will be TimHorton (I decided to take names from famous donut shops) it does mean that moving bug fixes back might be a little trickier and trickier over time.   
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>>>> For example once we decide that TimHorton is the focus - I will go in and drop all the 2.8 templates and skins i portal in trunk.  I might do a touch of code refactoring between SkinnableCharonPortal and PortalService - particularly those comments where we say "this code is duplicated in two other places..." - and I might just drop LTI 2.0 into trunk of TimHorton with an experimental option to hide it instead of living in a Branch.
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>>>> All these things mean it gets harder and harder to push large amounts of code changes back to the 2-9-x branch since stuff gets pushed around and things are not even in the same places.
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>>>> It wont' be impossible to get a fix into 2-1-x just a little tricker potentially.
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>>>> I am for having a small fix-only 2.9.4 sometime in the future with a few months of making real progress on the trunk toward the TimHorton release.  For example, I would love to see someone drop in a non-db event bus and enable it buy default :)   Lets make some real progress.
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