[sakai2-tcc] VOTE: Architectural / Library Changes for 2.9: DB2 & WebSphere

[Beth Kirschner]

12 votes to the positive, with no votes against. Looks like this proposal is approved, all we need is a volunteer to dive in :-)

- Beth

On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Beth Kirschner wrote:

> Given that the only response on this re-worded proposal was a thumbs up, I'd like to re-open voting.
> 
> Proposal:
> 1) Completely remove all DB2 conversion scripts
> 2) Completely remove the was project from the build and the externals
> 3) Institute a policy of deprecation, where code in support of WebSphere and/or DB2 should be removed or commented, on an ongoing basis, as time permits.
> 4) Allow for this change to be made past the code freeze of September 20th (but no later than September 30th).
> 
> Voting is now OPEN until 23:59 UTC on Wednesday, 21 September 2011. 
> 
> This is a public, on-list vote. Approval is indicated by a "+1", abstain by a "0" and disapproval by "-1". A single -1 vote based on a material objection will block action. However, -1 blocking votes can be overridden by a 2/3 majority roll call vote of active TCC members.
> 
> - Beth
> 
> On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
> 
>> I'd rather have a bit more discussion before any additional voting. The removal of DB2 conversion scripts is fairly simple and low-risk. The removal of code to support WAS is more risky (whenever you change code, there's always opportunity for regressions), and probably unnecessary. I'd like to reword the proposal as follows:
>> 
>> 1) Completely remove all DB2 conversion scripts
>> 2) Completely remove the was project from the build and the externals
>> 3) Institute a policy of deprecation, where code in support of WebSphere and/or DB2 should be removed or commented, on an ongoing basis, as time permits.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> - Beth
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>> 
>>> What are the current proposals?
>>> 
>>> BD2 : complete remove of related code
>>> WAS : remove from build and externals
>>> 
>>> Let's split votes.
>>> 
>>> I'm requesting the chair to launch separate votes on theses issues.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> J-F
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2011 23:56, Anthony Whyte wrote:
>>>> -1
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ideas included officially remove support (i.e. clean up files), leave WAS in trunk, remove the build.
>>>> 
>>>> The proposal's wording is vague and imprecise.  Additionally, it treats WAS/Db2 as married at the hip when one could drop WAS but retain Db2 support (playing devil's advocate here).  Second, and more importantly, I am concerned that a +1 vote will be viewed as providing a mandate to rip out patches made to the kernel and elsewhere (as opposed to cleaning out unsupported and useless conversion scripts, etc.).  Perhaps all that is advocated is deprecation in the case of Kernel Impl changes; if so it should be clearly stated.
>>>> 
>>>> If the proposal is clarified and states exactly what will be done regarding file "cleanup" I will likely vote +1.
>>>> 
>>>> "Db2" tickets (an admittedly crude search)
>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=summary+%7E+db2+OR+description+%7E+db2+OR+comment+%7E+db2+ORDER+BY+component+ASC
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anth
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Having not received any further discussion, I'd like to open this issue for a vote, with the voting OPEN until Friday, August 19th at 23:59 UTC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a reminder, this is a public, on-list vote with a "+1" signifying approval. Per our governance documents, a -1 vote must be accompanied by a detailed explanation. A single -1 vote based on a material objection will block action. However, -1 blocking votes can be overridden by a 2/3 majority roll call vote of active TCC members.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Beth
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am as well, since the historic files will always be available in Subversion. Is anyone willing to roll up their virtual sleeves and do this work?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Beth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:59 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm in favor of a complete cleanup.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> J-F
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/08/2011 01:35, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>>>>>>> At the LA Project Coordination Meetings the following architectural /
>>>>>>>> library changes were proposed for the 2.9 release: Removal of Support
>>>>>>>> for IBM DB2&   IBM WebSphere Application Server if resources are
>>>>>>>> identified to complete this work. Ideas included officially remove
>>>>>>>> support (i.e. clean up files), leave WAS in trunk, remove the build.
>>>>>>>> I'd like to put it to a vote next week, but please share any concerns
>>>>>>>> or questions now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> - Beth
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> P.S. Rejoice! This is the last outstanding proposal from the LA
>>>>>>>> Project Coordination Meetings!
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