[sakai2-tcc] VOTE: Functionality Changes for 2.9: Soft Delete

Tue Aug 16 06:31:29 PDT 2011

+1
-AZ


On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
> Having not received any further discussion, I'd like to open this issue for a vote, with the voting OPEN until Friday, August 19th at 23:59 UTC.
>
> As a reminder, this is a public, on-list vote with a "+1" signifying approval. Per our governance documents, a -1 vote must be accompanied by a detailed explanation. A single -1 vote based on a material objection will block action. However, -1 blocking votes can be overridden by a 2/3 majority roll call vote of active TCC members.
>
> - Beth
>
> On Aug 9, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>
>>
>> At the LA Project Coordination Meetings the following functionality changes were proposed for the 2.9 release: Inclusion enhancement for soft delete of sites & resources. I'd like to put it to a vote next week, but please share any concerns or questions now. I've pasted previous comments below.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Beth
>>
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>
>>>> Date: August 1, 2011 10:07:54 PM EDT
>>>> To: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org Committee" <sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] New feature - Soft deletion of sites
>>>>
>>>> ah then that might just handle it, nice, maybe just a test case then
>>>>
>>>> Not sent with my iphone.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2011 7:06 PM, "Steve Swinsburg" <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It's been a while since I worked on this, but I thought I built in a provision where admin users can issue another delete on a softly deleted site, and then it is purged immediately. And the soft delete is only for normal users (and they don't get the ability to do the extra delete)
>>>>>
>>>>> File a Jira so we can track it.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2011, at 11:59 AM, John Bush wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah I think the use case is more admin folks deleting a myws site as a one off to fix something or another, not the users themselves.
>>>>>> Probably didnt describe that clearly, you want me to enter jira so this doesnt get lost?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sent with my iphone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2011 5:04 PM, "Steve Swinsburg" <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A normal user can't delete their own my workspace. I get:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alert: Your Workspace may not be deleted with this tool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However what you propose sounds like a sensible modification since My Workspace sites are automatically regenerated with content intact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/08/2011, at 8:22 AM, John Bush wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have one question about this. We have a local mod to do soft
>>>>>>>> deletes, which seems fairly similar to this, although it doesn't do
>>>>>>>> the final purging. One thing we've noticed is that it causes some
>>>>>>>> issues with myworkspaces. A lot of times folks delete myworkspaces
>>>>>>>> via the UI in order to have them recreated with new configuration (new
>>>>>>>> tools, etc). With the introduction of a soft delete, since the
>>>>>>>> myworkspace aren't really deleted, they aren't regenerated. This
>>>>>>>> causes people some confusion. We were considering making myws sites a
>>>>>>>> special case, where they are always hard deleted. Right now we are
>>>>>>>> getting around this with manual sql calls that perform the hard
>>>>>>>> delete.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has there been any testing with your work around myws sites? Do you
>>>>>>>> see an issue here for your work ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Steve Swinsburg
>>>>>>>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have just finished work on a set of patches that allow sites to be softly deleted, and then later purged from the system after a given grace time.
>>>>>>>>> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-19952
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The way it works is thusly:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A maintainer of a site deletes that site. If soft deletes are enabled, the user receives a message about this instead of the normal message. The site is then, for all intents and purposes, deleted. It does not show in any lists and users cannot navigate to it. However the site still exists and is completely intact with all content and user lists. Users with the appropriate permission (site.visit.softly.deleted) can manually navigate to the url. They get a message that the site is due to be purged, but can still act on the site, perhaps retrieving content.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Normal users of a softly deleted site cannot access the site at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After a configured grace period, a Quartz job purges softly deleted sites from the system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In addition, another permission is added, site.del.softly.deleted. This allows users with this permission to issue another removeSite call, perhaps from a webservice or similar, and that will manually purge the site from the system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some screenshots are in the JIRA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I invite you to review this and let me know if you think it is something that could be voted on for inclusion. It does touch a few areas, and part of it requires mods deep into the Kernel SQL, so feedback would be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> N.B. The client I wrote this for has kindly allowed me to contribute this to the community.
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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