[sakai2-tcc] ROLL CALL VOTE: override objections to retaining Hybrid patches in Login and Providers

[May, Megan Marie]

Yes

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From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Berg, Alan
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Aaron Zeckoski; Anthony Whyte
Cc: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org Committee; Speelmon, Lance
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] ROLL CALL VOTE: override objections to retaining Hybrid patches in Login and Providers

Glad this debate is in the open and honest differences of opinion between experts in their fields can be vented.

YES, 

We need to build bridges and balance risks.

Alan

Alan Berg
QA Director - The Sakai Foundation

Senior Developer / Quality Assurance
Group Education and Research Services
Central Computer Services
University of Amsterdam

http://home.uva.nl/a.m.berg

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From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] on behalf of Aaron Zeckoski [aaronz at vt.edu]
Sent: 05 November 2010 19:51
To: Anthony Whyte
Cc: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org Committee; lance Speelmon
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] ROLL CALL VOTE: override objections to retaining Hybrid patches in Login and Providers

NO

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu> wrote:
> Two TCC members have objected to retaining in 2.8.x two hybrid-related 
> patches to login and providers that, in my opinion, are low risk 
> additions that help simplify adding the hybrid module to a 2.8 build.
> As I noted in my previous email I believe it important that we avoid 
> erecting barriers to those who wish to pursue the evolving hybrid 
> approach between the CLE and OLE--removing the patches will add 
> additional steps to those who wish to deploy the hybrid 1.0 module, a 
> scenario that benefits no one.
>
> 1. Neither patch is active by default
> 2. No Nakamura dependencies are added to 2.8 (Lance has refactored 
> Hybrid removing Nakamura dependencies) 3. No precedent set here 
> (mirrors what we did for GB2 in 2.7) 4. The patches help simplify 
> adding the hybrid module to a 2.8 installation 5. Hybrid itself is 
> packaged as an indie and the project is well-maintained.
>  Any additional documentation required will be cheerfully generated by 
> Lance.
> 6. Where we can assist our OAE colleagues we should; this is a modest 
> step towards greater collaboration.
>
> MOTION
> This is a public, on-list vote on the following question:
> "Shall the TCC override objections to retaining the inclusion of 
> hybrid patches to login (SAK-17223) and providers (SAK-17222) that 
> were merged to 2.8.x for inclusion in the upcoming sakai-2.8.0 release."
>
> VOTING
> Active TCC members will vote "YES" or "NO" where "YES" is a vote to 
> override the -1 blocker vote and approve the Hybrid patches proposal 
> for inclusion in 2.8.
>
> Voting is OPEN now until 20:00 UTC, WEDNESDAY, 10 NOV 2010.
>
> CODE (PLEASE REVIEW IT)
> Providers:
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/providers/branches/sakai-2.8.x/hyb
> rid/
> Login: 
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/login/branches/sakai-2.8.x/login-t
> ool/tool/src/java/org/sakaiproject/login/filter/NakamuraAuthentication
> Filter.java
>
> PATCH JIRAS
> Hybrid UserDirectoryProvider 
> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17222
> Hybrid container AuthN filter 
> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17223
>
> HYBRID PROJECT
> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/HYB
> Open/resolved HYB jiras:
> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jql
> Query=project+%3D+HYB
>
> EARLIER DISCUSSIONS
> Lance's answers to questions raised about Hybrid prior to the TCC vote 
> to exclude Hybrid from 2.8.0 
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/2.8.0+Inclusion+Voting+
> Tally+and+Comments 
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/TCC/List+of+Planned+2.8.0+C
> hanges
>
> RECENT CONCERNS:
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai2-tcc/2010-October/00052
> 4.html
>
>
> Cheers,
> Anth
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
> Date: October 15, 2010 11:36:04 AM EDT
> To: "sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org Committee"
> <sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Subject: [sakai2-tcc] SAK-19326: hybrid removal / patch retention
>
> I've removed the hybrid module assembly dependency from the 2.8.x 
> core-deploy pom as well as the version <property> in the master pom.  
> I have not reverted the patches to login and providers (SAK-17222, 
> SAK-17223) as myself and others believe retaining the patches will 
> simplify the installation and deployment process for deployers who 
> wish to add hybrid to their 2.8 installations.  There is certainly 
> precedent for this approach; most recently we provided "hooks" for gradebook2 in sakai-2.7.
>
> I suggest we leave them in place for inclusion in the upcoming
> sakai-2.8.0-a02 QA tag.  I believe it important that we avoid erecting 
> barriers to those who wish to pursue the evolving hybrid approach 
> between 2x and the Sakai OAE--removing the patches will add additional 
> steps to those who wish to deploy the hybrid 1.0 module, a scenario that benefits no one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anthony
>
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