[sakai2-tcc] Contrib tool to Sakai Enterprise core in 2.x

[Berg, Alan]

Hi,

>The impractical, rhetorical response is: what's wrong such that a group that makes a tool that fills a >gap doesn't know how or is unwilling to advertise or advocate for said tool in a way that catches >community attention?

It is not clear to me if the perceived barrier is too high for smaller groups to be motivated to go through the process.  Can the TCC play a buddy role?

Alan B

Alan Berg
QA Director - The Sakai Foundation

Senior Developer / Quality Assurance
Group Education and Research Services
Central Computer Services
University of Amsterdam

http://home.uva.nl/a.m.berg
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From: Noah Botimer [botimer at umich.edu]
Sent: 20 July 2010 14:13
To: Berg, Alan
Cc: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] Contrib tool to Sakai Enterprise core in 2.x

An interesting and practical question.

The impractical, rhetorical response is: what's wrong such that a group that makes a tool that fills a gap doesn't know how or is unwilling to advertise or advocate for said tool in a way that catches community attention? Is this a problem worth solving if the tool makers are disinterested?

Regardless of the answers, there is a known set of documentation and an outlined (albeit evolving) process for inclusion in the Sakai release. Reaching out to a project team to show them that process and how others have participated seems quite reasonable.

I might first point to the "2.7 Exercise" and the range of projects "formally considered" and see if EDIA might be interested in participating in such a process.

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/MGT/2.7+Exercise
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/MGT/Development+Efforts+formally+considered

Thanks,
-Noah

On Jul 20, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Berg, Alan wrote:

Hi Noah,

I see improvement via a contrib tool. It may even ease issues for hybrid mode if looked at for Sakai 3.  Do we wait for the tool provider to come to us, which they will not or do we consider the technical merits and reach out if worth the effort.

Alan B

Alan Berg
QA Director - The Sakai Foundation

Senior Developer / Quality Assurance
Group Education and Research Services
Central Computer Services
University of Amsterdam

http://home.uva.nl/a.m.berg
________________________________
From: Noah Botimer [botimer at umich.edu]
Sent: 20 July 2010 13:37
To: Berg, Alan
Cc: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] Contrib tool to Sakai Enterprise core in 2.x

My personal opinion is that there is an established contact channel for people interested in becoming part of the release. This is some combination of the Product Manager and Product Council.

I think we should probably stick to our technical charge for now. Certainly, as community members, I think we should feel free to provide contacts and information to project teams, but I don't really see outreach as something to spend much of this group's time on for now.

I'm happy for others to disagree, but I do see a measurable workload even on the finest grained definition of scope.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Berg, Alan wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if some tool makers in Sakai 2.x contrib are being put off from getting their tools into Enterprise Sakai because we may be putting  barriers in their way. I like the talk about the application shop this will eliminate my concerns to some degree. However, taking as an example the work by EDIA (http://www.edia.nl/), I find the Knowledge base tool interesting as a replacement for help http://sakaitools.edia.nl. Does the TCC intend to look and reach out to these tool makers and if so is EDIA a possible candidate for communication.

Alan B

Alan Berg
QA Director - The Sakai Foundation

Senior Developer / Quality Assurance
Group Education and Research Services
Central Computer Services
University of Amsterdam

http://home.uva.nl/a.m.berg
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