[sakai2-tcc] 2.8 status, schedule and tags

Noah Botimer botimer at umich.edu
Thu Dec 2 20:37:09 PST 2010


While I am generally on board, I would urge us to do some sanity checking on the perception of testing. I have the impression that there is some happening and, while it may be less than we would like to see, the best way to discourage those volunteers is to tell them that they aren't doing enough.

The same goes for bug fixing.

Driving through tags and then shaking a finger at people who couldn't get to something is an easy bad habit to keep and doesn't help anything. I would like us to be objective, realistic, and inventive. If we are really starved for the testing, I support an honest throttle of our tagging pace (or, less tastefully, our testing assertions, if the labeling timeline is key for some reason).

The first thing I would ask for is a clear sense of what is actually happening and essentially a menu of possible contributions.

I know that a lot of this happens point-to-point and gets put in Confluence, and I don't want to diminish that difficult coordination work, but my question is:


Do the people who can allocate resources truly and collectively understand the gaps and what's at stake for them?


I have more thoughts, but I'll start with this. If nothing else, take from this that I'm in support of truth in labeling and gratitude for volunteerism.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:22 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:

> Hi Seth, 
>   As you know, I agree with this course of action.   Functional testing appears to be at all-time low.  It does us no good to "go through the motions"  of creating tags if no one is doing anything.  
> 
> Megan 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Seth Theriault
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:40 PM
> To: sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] 2.8 status, schedule and tags
> 
> Seth Theriault wrote:
> 
> 
>> Overall, I think that lack of/difficulty getting resources for QA is a 
>> very serious threat to this release. Frankly, I plan on talking to Ian 
>> Dolphin about it, but I am interested in your opinions and suggestions 
>> about how to proceed or corrections about how my perceptions are 
>> totally wrong.
> 
> I wrote the above on October 28 and, in my opinion, the threat continues despite our move to a beta tag this week. In fact, if more significant functional testing resources do not appear, I am ready to suggest that no further tags be cut.
> 
> So, once again, I am asking for your input.
> 
> Seth
> 
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