[Using Sakai] WebDAV & Sakai

[Sam Ottenhoff]

Using Mac OS 10.10.2:

1) Apple-K to connect to server
2) I paste in a QA DAV link
https://qa10-mysql.nightly.sakaiproject.org/dav/8d253f45-c6a7-4192-bcd1-b3d49731e49f
3) I login as instructor1 / sakai

The results are as expected. The disk is mounted, and I can open the text
files in a text editor, modify the file, and save.

If you can provide steps to replicate a bug on a sakaiproject.org QA
server, I'm willing to take a look.

--Sam

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> Gotcha.
>
> Well, you could try asking the developer community
>
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-dev
>
> or you could check with the Sakai PMC governance group
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-pmc
>
> It's an interesting point, but I'm not sure if it is a high priority
> within the Sakai community at the moment. As I mentioned, I've seen a lot
> of effort from Sakai developers in the past to support WebDav because of
> the convenience it provides but there seems like in general there are more
> alternatives available for the main use case (uploading and downloading
> multiple resources at once) and WebDav seems like (AFAICT, not being one of
> the devs myself) it is hard to support.
>
> Doesn't mean that your use case is not a good one, just that there might
> not be resources in the community to make it happen. If you brought
> resources to bear on the problem, it might be something other institutions
> would be interested in too, though so far it is not one that I've been
> hearing about.
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
>
>>  We have Sakai 9.x, and I'm generally running Mac OS X on 4(!) computers
>> in the process of being upgraded to Yosemite.
>>
>> I've been using Cyberduck for years, but I don't think it meets my needs
>> in this instance. I need to store files on Sakai in Resources, organize
>> them into folders, and be able to access them seamlessly from apps. For
>> example, at home I have a NAS drive and  mount it on my iMac as if it were
>> part of the local file system. (I believe this uses Bonjour.) Once the NAS
>> drive is mounted, apps on the iMac can access files on it as if they were
>> local. Of course this requires everything to be on the same LAN. WebDAV
>> doesn't have this restriction.
>>
>> Unless I'm missing something about Cyberduck's functionality, it's
>> basically an Explorer/Finder-like tool for transferring files. I need to
>> use WebDAV to access files in real time, not to up- and download them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/15 4:13 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>
>> What version of Sakai are you using?
>> What operating system are you using WebDav on (Mac OS X, Windows 7,
>> Windows 8, etc.)?
>>
>>  I know a lot of work has gone into making WebDav work with Sakai, but
>> it hasn't been easy. A lot of times the backup plan has been to use a 3rd
>> party tool for the WebDav connection, like Cyberduck (seems to be the most
>> popular). I assume that the problem is more on the WebDav technology than
>> Sakai technology but not being a "guru" , I can not say definitively.
>>
>>  Starting with Sakai 10, we added drag and drop for Resources and that
>> has proved to be a popular alternative to WebDav and easier to use. In
>> Chrome, one can drag whole folders over. Other browsers individual files.
>>
>>  -- Neal
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Last week I tried using WebDAV with our local Sakai implementation and
>>> couldn't get it to work properly. So I asked our local Sakai support for
>>> help using WebDAV on Sakai, but the answer I got back was really about
>>> ways to use Sakai without using WebDAV (e.g., zip files to move multiple
>>> files at once). So I wrote back and gave a description of what I want to
>>> do and why only WebDAV or something very much like it (e.g., NFS) would
>>> work. But in retrospect it seems to me this was also off topic. My
>>> question simply is how does one make WebDAV work with Sakai, and if it
>>> doesn't work with Sakai then why does Sakai advertise its use (in
>>> Resources)? I never really got an answer.
>>>
>>> The support person did briefly mention some technical issues which seem
>>> to make WebDAV and Sakai incompatible. Here's what I understand. Our
>>> implementation of Sakai runs in a cluster. When WebDAV first connects to
>>> Sakai it connects to a specific instance of the Sakai file system in the
>>> cluster. But during any given session Sakai may want to use a different
>>> instance in the cluster. Since WebDAV is still connected to the original
>>> instance, it breaks.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that if this interpretation is roughly correct, then one
>>> of these two implications is too. (1) Sakai is incompatible with WebDAV,
>>> in which case the instructions in Resources about using WebDAV with
>>> Sakai should be removed. Otherwise, they just waste everyone's time. (2)
>>> Somebody actually went into Sakai's file management routines and
>>> modified them so that WebDAV behaves properly. Perhaps this is an add-on
>>> or particular settings for various parameters set when configuring
>>> Sakai. But for some reason this feature has not been properly
>>> implemented here at my institution.
>>>
>>> Could one of you gurus enlighten me about this?
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