[Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
Igor Novopashenny
igor at escience.uni-bremen.de
Thu Nov 28 02:26:16 PST 2013
Hi,
I tried to check these permissions in
!site.template
!site.user
!user.template
But nothing happens.
I still have no opportunity to add a portfolio site-
I've tried as Administrator, user, registered user.
Regards Igor
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[mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] Im Auftrag von Jim
Mezzanotte
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2013 20:41
An: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
Betreff: Re: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
Hi Igor,
In Sakai 2.9, new permissions were added to control whether a user can add
project or portfolio sites:
site.add.project
site.add.portfolio
With these new permissions, there are now four permissions that control site
creation in My Workspace:
site.add
site.add.course
site.add.project
site.add.portfolio
So it looks like you haven't been granted the "site.add.portfolio"
permission.
Best,
Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International
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> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:30:27 -0500
> From: Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Sakai Trunk - Bug in Draft
> Announcements?
> To: Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu>
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> Thanks.
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> Here is the Jira - https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25413
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> ? Neal
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> On Nov 27, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu> wrote:
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> > Hi, Neal:
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> > I will definitely consider this as a bug. Please go ahead and file a
JIRA.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Zhen
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> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
wrote:
> > Just double checking on this. If I don't hear anything back, I'll open a
Jira.
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> > Cheers,
> > Neal
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> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
wrote:
> > Hi All,
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> > I made a short, about a minute, video to show what I think might be a
bug in trunk when using Draft Announcements. I do not see an existing Jira
showing this problem.
> >
> > Summary: If you create an Announcement as draft (aka hide
announcement), a default start date is automatically assigned, though the
draft announcement behaves as expected in that it has the word Draft in
front and is dimmed out (for instructor). If you edit the announcement, it
shows a default of ?Specify Dates? instead of ?Hide (draft mode?)?. If you
click the Cancel button, all is well. But if you click on the Save button,
without having made any changes, the announcement switches to Specify Dates
and is available.
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> > Is this expected behavior? Or should I open a Jira?
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> > http://www.screencast.com/t/tMV7ORjvpHsv
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> > Thanks,
> > Neal
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> > Neal Caidin
> > Sakai Community Coordinator
> > neal.caidin at apereo.org
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> > Twitter: ncaidin
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> From: "Igor Novopashenny" <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
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> Hi!
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> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
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> I use it to test my Russian translations.
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> If go to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
> possibilities - to create a project or a course site-
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> But there is no item Portfolio site.
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> Where (how) I can change it?
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> Regards Igor
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> From: "Ward, Lynn E." <leward at iu.edu>
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> Are you logged in as an admin? I believe that creating portfolio sites
was restricted to admins as of 2.9.
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> Lynn
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> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Igor
> Novopashenny
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:56 AM
> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
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> Hi!
> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
> I use it to test my Russian translations.
> If go to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
> possibilities - to create a project or a course site- But there is no item
Portfolio site.
> Where (how) I can change it?
> Regards Igor
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> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:08:55 -0500
> From: Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Problem/Fixes to Lessons
> To: Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu>
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> I talked with Marshall offline. Apparently what he was interested in doing
was annotating the student comments. He?s concerned that they may say things
that are wrong, and other students may not realize it. He may be able to
accomplish some of his needs by editing the student comments and adding his
own annotations in a different color. The instructor can edit or delete any
student comment.
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> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
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> > Earlier today Josh Baron posted that the T&L is looking for feedback on
enhancements to the Lessons tool. While not exactly enhancements (they're
more like bug fixes and fixes to serious design flaws), the note below
describes three serious problems I recently ran into with the Lessons tool.
Since our support staff here has been preoccupied with trying to retrieve
the lost data, I am posting a slightly edited transcript of my initial
problem report.
> >
> > ---- Transcript begins here -----
> >
> > I've added a Lessons page to my course site and authorized it to allow
addition of student content to be used as an electronic portfolio of student
work. The students must add a page for each week's material, and they must
view the other students' portfolios and make comments. For ease of
description call the first-level page I created "the root page," each
student's first-level page, "first-level" (on these pages they create links
to their weekly entries, so the first-level page acts as the student's table
of contents), and each weekly entry (student's second-level pages), "weekly
entry."
> >
> > Here are the problems I'm having:
> > I want to be able to grade weekly entries (both content and comments)
separately. But Sakai seems to be only allowing grading of each student's
comments in its entirety. In other words, on the root page where I've
authorized addition of student content, clicking "Edit" opens a window where
I can create Gradebook entries for both student content and comments. This
creates a button to "Show a grading pane" on the root page where students
content was authorized. But if I click through to the first-level and weekly
entry pages, the grading button is no longer present; there is no way to
grade each student's individual comments individually. How can one grade
each comment individually?
> > The above description applies only to comments students make about
> > other students' pages: by authorizing students to post comments,
> > comments on all levels of the hierarchy are enabled: root page,
> > first-levels, and weekly entries, although grading is only enabled
> > on the root page . But this is still better than what happens for
> > the pages students actually create and submit for grading. Here,
> > when on the root page I select the Edit button for the block of
> > student contributions, a window opens up with a checkbox next to
> > "Create gradebook entries for these items" and a text box next to
> > "Maximum points." But when I check the box and enter maximum points,
> > Sakai returns an error message. Unfortunately I can't report it here
> > because of problem #3. But the gist of the message was that I was
> > not allowed to add grading to student content, "most likely because
> > a gradebook had not yet been added to the site" (which was untrue).
> > Further accidental investigation (#3 below) suggests that
t
> his was due to the fact that students had already created several pages.
How can one add grading for student content that already exists?
> > In preparing #2 above, I went back to the site and tried to replicate
the error message. I checked the box, entered a Maximum points, and hit
return, thinking this would yield the error message that had appeared every
time before. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but the entire section of
student contributions disappeared. This seems to be because the default
button on this window is to delete the entire section of student pages,
which is what apparently happened. To try to fix this, I went back to the
the root page and added another section for student content, but the
original content (including my instructions on how to use the Lessons tool)
did not come back. So how can one recover this lost content?
> > Comment. If my assessment of what happened with #3 is correct, this is
an awful failure of user interface design. In other places Sakai's
hand-holding goes to absurd lengths to prevent accidental mistakes (e.g.
from Resources select Actions > Edit Details > Select URL (for copying), and
every time a window pops up telling the user to remember to press Ctrl-C to
copy the URL, with the user then having to press the OK button and then go
back and hit Ctrl-C; it would be much more efficient to simply put text
above the Details box saying, "Position your cursor in the box, and they
press ctrl-A, followed by ctrl-C"). But here in the lessons tool, where
students could have (and my students actually did) put in weeks of work, the
default action (by pressing "Return") erases everything without any warning!
How often does one delete the entire section of student contributions that
deletion should be the default action? Don't "Update" or "Cancel" make more
sense?
> >
> > ------- End of transcript -------
> >
> > As I said, the local support staff has focused on restoring the
students' work and has not yet begun to address the three issues mentioned
above. Consequently the issues, their interpretation, and diagnoses are
preliminary and somewhat conjectural. Nonetheless, whatever really is going
on needs to be addressed.
> >
> > If anyone can help by offering advice on how to address any of these
issues, I'd appreciate that too.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Marsh Feldman
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