[Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
Neal Caidin
neal.caidin at apereo.org
Wed Nov 20 05:26:54 PST 2013
Anything merged into trunk is going into Sakai 10 (with possibly rare exceptions). I believe this is already merged.
For the foreseeable future trunk == Sakai 10 .
Cheers,
Neal
Neal Caidin
Sakai Community Coordinator
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On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> This would be great in Sakai 10. Is it going in?
>
> adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Foster
> Sent: 19 November 2013 20:37
> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; Beith, Linda
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>
> Hi, Linda.
>
> This time last year, we worked with Longsight to design a joinable group tool that works in the Manage Groups area of Site Info. It's called Joinable Sets.
>
> Essentially, you create a new set of groups, which are joinable (hence Joinable Sets). A particular student can join one group in a set. There is a max number of members per group, so once the max is reach, the group is full and no more students can join that group. Joinable Sets also auto-generate groups and group names based on the name of the set.
>
> Instructors can choose whether or not students can see who are in the groups before they join.
>
> Since "Joinable Sets" is an association of groups, a previously created group can be added to a set or removed later from a set.
>
> Students join via the existing group area on their Site Info page.
>
> Credit to Bryan Holladay from Longsight who did a great job of getting this into Sakai trunk.
>
> Details can be found at this ticket:
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22858
>
> There is a ScreenCast linked and screenshots attached. There is a pdf mockup attached as well showing how it would look in our Sakai instance at Western.
>
> The ticket also has a patch for kernel and a patch for Site Manage.
>
> Hopefully this helps,
> -Shawn
>
> --
> Shawn Foster
> Instructional Technology Support and Application Development Information Technology Services Western University London, Ontario, Canada
>
> On 13-11-19 12:03 PM, sakai-user-request at collab.sakaiproject.org wrote:
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Re: question on student sign up options (Adam Marshall)
>> 2. Re: question on student sign up options (David Minugh)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:56:11 +0000
>> From: Adam Marshall <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>> To: "Beith, Linda" <lbeith at rwu.edu>,
>> "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org User
>> (sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org)"
>> <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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>> Doesn't the sections tool allow students to form their own groups?
>>
>> adam
>>
>> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of
>> Beith, Linda
>> Sent: 19 November 2013 16:36
>> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org User
>> (sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org)
>> Subject: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have a couple of faculty requests that are similar and I thought I'd run them by the group to see if anyone has discovered solutions.
>>
>>
>> 1. A faculty member wants to have groups of 3 or 4 students do a video explanation of separate math concepts. He would like the students to sign up for their own groups.
>> 2. Another faculty member has students sign up for a topic to do a final project and wants students to identify their first choice on the list. Only one topic per student so that when the first person signs up for a topic it is no longer available to everyone else in the class.
>> I have looked at the Group tool - no self signup available - and the Sign Up tool - limited to day and time slots. I also looked at the Quiz/Survey tool but this doesn't work either since the students can't see other responses.
>>
>> Anyone else run into these types of scenarios and found a solution?
>> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> Linda L. Beith, Ph.D.
>> Roger Williams University
>> Director, Instructional Design
>> One Old Ferry Road, Bristol RI
>> 401-254-3134
>> Website: id.rwu.edu<http://id.rwu.edu/>
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>> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:03:01 +0000
>> From: David Minugh <David.Minugh at English.su.se>
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>> To: "'Beith, Linda'" <lbeith at rwu.edu>
>> Cc: "'sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org'"
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>> Hi Linda,
>>
>> A simple (primitive) work-around that I use all the time for students wanting to sign up for e.g. tutorials is to create a list in the Wiki tool. Just create (numbered) slots for groups of the appropriate size, and the students can fill it in themselves. Works like a charm, and the history option allows you to recreate the list if a student accidentally destroys the structure (which has happened). Easy for faculty to create and use, and students don't have to trot off to my office to sign up.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> David C. Minugh E-mail: David.Minugh at english.su.se
>> Director of Studies/International Exchanges Tel: (+46) 8 16 35 94
>> English Department Cell phone: (+46) 70 - 23 14 777
>> Stockholm University Office: E 851, Frescati
>>
>> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of
>> Beith, Linda
>> Sent: den 19 november 2013 17:52
>> To: Francesca Socolick
>> Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org User
>> (sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org)
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>>
>> Hi Francesca. Both good suggestions. Thanks!
>> Linda
>>
>> From: Francesca Socolick [mailto:francesca.socolick at nyu.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:47 AM
>> To: Beith, Linda
>> Cc:
>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproje
>> ct.org> User
>> (sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproj
>> ect.org>)
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] question on student sign up options
>>
>> Hi Linda,
>>
>> We've run into this a few times as well (the first scenario). Our workaround (which seems to work) is to add a google doc into the course site (either via Web Content, or into the Resources folder) and use that as a 'self sign up' place - we're a Google Apps for Ed school, so for most folks this workaround works well for them.
>> For the second scenario, the faculty member could leverage the Forums tool and make Topics for each final presentation topic and have student 'sign up' by posting comments (maybe a '+1' if they want to do it for their first choice). Instead of the 'topic removal' being automatic, once a student adds a comment, the faculty member can just have a general rule that it's off the table once its been claimed (the faculty member will be able to tell 'who got their first' based on the date/time stamp of the comment postings from the students.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Francesca
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Beith, Linda <lbeith at rwu.edu<mailto:lbeith at rwu.edu>> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have a couple of faculty requests that are similar and I thought I'd run them by the group to see if anyone has discovered solutions.
>>
>>
>> 1. A faculty member wants to have groups of 3 or 4 students do a video explanation of separate math concepts. He would like the students to sign up for their own groups.
>> 2. Another faculty member has students sign up for a topic to do a final project and wants students to identify their first choice on the list. Only one topic per student so that when the first person signs up for a topic it is no longer available to everyone else in the class.
>> I have looked at the Group tool - no self signup available - and the Sign Up tool - limited to day and time slots. I also looked at the Quiz/Survey tool but this doesn't work either since the students can't see other responses.
>>
>> Anyone else run into these types of scenarios and found a solution?
>> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> Linda L. Beith, Ph.D.
>> Roger Williams University
>> Director, Instructional Design
>> One Old Ferry Road, Bristol RI
>> 401-254-3134<tel:401-254-3134>
>> Website: id.rwu.edu<http://id.rwu.edu/>
>>
>>
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>> --
>> Francesca Socolick
>> Instructional Designer and Usability Engineer Educational Technology
>> Services Academic Technology Services, ITS New York University
>> phone: 212-992-6786<tel:212-992-6786>
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