[Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] alerts not sent on Topic or Forum creation

Fatima Rahiman Fatima.Rahiman at wits.ac.za
Mon Dec 2 03:29:07 PST 2013


OK , tried to do  this but I  see there is no "Issue Type" option related to  Forums ...should  I log this then under SAKAI CLE?
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From: Noah Botimer [mailto:botimer at umich.edu]
Sent: 29 November 2013 12:56 AM
To: Fatima Rahiman
Cc: Jim Mezzanotte; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; James Smurthwaite; Antoinette Malgas; Sakai Developers (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org); David Wafula Wanyonyi
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] alerts not sent on Topic or Forum creation

It can't hurt to open a JIRA issue. It might turn out that it is not implemented, but at least it will be recorded there and tracked.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Fatima Rahiman <Fatima.Rahiman at wits.ac.za<mailto:Fatima.Rahiman at wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Thanks Jim and Noah for  your feedback. Do I  open a Jira on this or will this be picked up automatically by the development community?

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From: Jim Mezzanotte [mailto:jmezzanotte at anisakai.com]
Sent: 21 November 2013 11:07 PM
To: Noah Botimer
Cc: Fatima Rahiman; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; James Smurthwaite; Antoinette Malgas; Sakai Developers (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>); David Wafula Wanyonyi
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] alerts not sent on Topic or Forum creation

Hi Fatima,
I agree--it would be good to have an additional setting for a topic, to notify others that it's open, and a setting that lets you add open/close dates for a topic to the site calendar. For now, Noah's suggestion might be the best (only) approach. I suppose you could make that first posted message serve as an announcement, to let users know the topic has opened, et cetera.
Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu<mailto:botimer at umich.edu>> wrote:
This may be a workaround or just good practice (I won't judge which), but I'd suggest posting an invitation message in the new topic. I suspect that a message with a specific call to action for the topic will drive learner engagement better than an automated "topic is open" message. I've found students sometimes reluctant to speak first and set the tone for a new conversation.

Thanks,
-Noah

On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Fatima Rahiman wrote:

Thanks Jim...but surely at the very least an alert on  Topic creation should be sent to site members ??? How else do we ensure student  engagement  then if they're not alerted that  a new Topic has been posted?

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From: Jim Mezzanotte [mailto:jmezzanotte at anisakai.com<mailto:jmezzanotte at anisakai.com>]
Sent: 21 November 2013 04:33 PM
To: Fatima Rahiman
Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; James Smurthwaite; Antoinette Malgas; Sakai Developers (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>); David Wafula Wanyonyi
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] alerts not sent on Topic or Forum creation

Hi Fatima,
My understanding is, that's by design--Forums watch notification is only for messages posted.
Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Fatima Rahiman <Fatima.Rahiman at wits.ac.za<mailto:Fatima.Rahiman at wits.ac.za>> wrote:
H  There
We've noticed in our courses that  when Forums or Topics are created no alerts are sent to  members of the site despite enabling all the requisite settings e.g. WATCH conversation etc . They only seem to receive an alert when a conversation is started. Is this the way the Forum tool works or have we set something incorrectly?

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