[Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites

Thu Aug 15 07:20:16 PDT 2013

Hi Igor,

If you use the Sign-up tool, you can also have groups automatically
created for specific time slots. After users sign up (or you assign
them), you "sync" the time slots, and each group is automatically
populated with the appropriate attendees.

Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM,
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>    1. Re: Using SAKAI Course sites (igor Novopashenny)
>    2. Re: Using SAKAI Course sites (Steve Swinsburg)
>    3. REMINDER > Today's Sakai Teaching and Learning Call (Josh Baron)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "igor Novopashenny" <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
> To: "'Kara Stiles'" <kstiles at brutuspartners.com>, "'Neal Caidin'" <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:16:00 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
> Thank you for the advice, but it didn't help.
> But I don't understand why
> I try to describe my problem once more.
> I log in SAKAI as instructor.
> Then I go to the course site.
> In the course site I use the tool section info.
> In this tool I add section
> In the Meetings details I mark the days and start/end time.
> After it I expect that these meeting details must be seen in the schedule.
> So the Instructor and the students have the information about the lectures,
> practice, etc.
> But it looks like that NOTHING from the meeting details is shown in the
> schedule.
> Regards Igor
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kara Stiles [mailto:kstiles at brutuspartners.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 12. August 2013 16:45
> An: Neal Caidin
> Cc: igor Novopashenny; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Betreff: Re: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
>
> Hi Igor,
>
> This may have something to do with your group template realm permissions,
> which get copied into a new group realm each time you create a group or
> section for the worksite.
>
> If you are using sections instead of groups, this can cause group realm
> permissions to be a bit tricky.  Try these steps to solve the immediate
> problem:
>
> 1. Use the realms tool in the Admin Workspace to locate the realm for the
> course site
>
> (a site realm looks like this: /site/c4140376-5502-47d1-b4c4-a2e6969892b1 )
>
> 2. Click the site realm, and make sure the student role has the following
> permissions: calendar.new and section.role.student
>
> 3. Next, use the realms tool in the Admin Workspace to locate the realm for
> the section(s).
>
> A section realm (which is the same as a group realm, so I'll continue to
> call it a group realm) looks like this:
>
> /site/c4140376-5502-47d1-b4c4-a2e6969892b1/group/ff0c10d3-8283-414d-b8a7-d69
> 2acb57168
>
> 4. Click the Student role in the group realm, and make sure that the student
> role has calendar.new and section.role.student
>
> 5. Repeat this for all group realms in the site
>
> 6. Test, and if it still doesn't work, then maybe someone else has another
> idea.
>
> If this technique *did* work, to prevent this problem in the future, you'll
> want to configure your group template realms so they support the use of
> certain tools when you add sections to the course.  This page (though a bit
> dated) might be of some use:
>
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Groups+vs.+Sections
>
>
> Thanks,
> Kara
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure, but I think that it is a feature that has never
>> been implemented.
>>
>> I notice this Jira - https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-11486 ,
>> which seems related in that it requires support for repeating events.
>> Maybe this is the reason it does not support the Section tool?
>>
>> When you say "Appointments" do you mean "Meeting Details"?  Otherwise,
>> maybe we are talking about different things.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype: nealkdin
>> Twitter: ncaidin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:36 AM, igor Novopashenny
>> <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> we have the problem with the Appointments If we define meeting details
>> in  the section tool, we expect that they must be available in the
>> schedule, but they do not.
>> Can somebody explain why it can happen?
>> Regards
>> Igor
>>
>> Von: igor Novopashenny [mailto:Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de]
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. August 2013 22:17
>> An: 'Neal Caidin'
>> Cc: 'sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org'
>> Betreff: AW: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
>>
>> Hi,
>> I use the tool Sections and define a schedule for lectures and practice.
>> I’ve expected that these events would be shown in the tool Schedule.
>> But I don’t see any events there.
>> Why?
>> Regards Igor
>>
>>
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
> To: igor Novopashenny <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
> Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:08:58 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
> Hi Igor,
>
> The sections tool doesn't integrate with the calendar.
>
> It depends on what you are trying to achieve but you might want to look at the signup tool which does integrate with the calendar - it allows you to create timeslots for various things and then users can signup.
> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/SIGNUP/Home
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 14/08/2013, at 4:16 PM, igor Novopashenny <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the advice, but it didn't help.
>> But I don't understand why
>> I try to describe my problem once more.
>> I log in SAKAI as instructor.
>> Then I go to the course site.
>> In the course site I use the tool section info.
>> In this tool I add section
>> In the Meetings details I mark the days and start/end time.
>> After it I expect that these meeting details must be seen in the schedule.
>> So the Instructor and the students have the information about the lectures,
>> practice, etc.
>> But it looks like that NOTHING from the meeting details is shown in the
>> schedule.
>> Regards Igor
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Kara Stiles [mailto:kstiles at brutuspartners.com]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 12. August 2013 16:45
>> An: Neal Caidin
>> Cc: igor Novopashenny; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> Betreff: Re: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
>>
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>> This may have something to do with your group template realm permissions,
>> which get copied into a new group realm each time you create a group or
>> section for the worksite.
>>
>> If you are using sections instead of groups, this can cause group realm
>> permissions to be a bit tricky.  Try these steps to solve the immediate
>> problem:
>>
>> 1. Use the realms tool in the Admin Workspace to locate the realm for the
>> course site
>>
>> (a site realm looks like this: /site/c4140376-5502-47d1-b4c4-a2e6969892b1 )
>>
>> 2. Click the site realm, and make sure the student role has the following
>> permissions: calendar.new and section.role.student
>>
>> 3. Next, use the realms tool in the Admin Workspace to locate the realm for
>> the section(s).
>>
>> A section realm (which is the same as a group realm, so I'll continue to
>> call it a group realm) looks like this:
>>
>> /site/c4140376-5502-47d1-b4c4-a2e6969892b1/group/ff0c10d3-8283-414d-b8a7-d69
>> 2acb57168
>>
>> 4. Click the Student role in the group realm, and make sure that the student
>> role has calendar.new and section.role.student
>>
>> 5. Repeat this for all group realms in the site
>>
>> 6. Test, and if it still doesn't work, then maybe someone else has another
>> idea.
>>
>> If this technique *did* work, to prevent this problem in the future, you'll
>> want to configure your group template realms so they support the use of
>> certain tools when you add sections to the course.  This page (though a bit
>> dated) might be of some use:
>>
>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/DOC/Groups+vs.+Sections
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kara
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Igor,
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure, but I think that it is a feature that has never
>>> been implemented.
>>>
>>> I notice this Jira - https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-11486 ,
>>> which seems related in that it requires support for repeating events.
>>> Maybe this is the reason it does not support the Section tool?
>>>
>>> When you say "Appointments" do you mean "Meeting Details"?  Otherwise,
>>> maybe we are talking about different things.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Neal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Neal Caidin
>>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
>>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>>> Skype: nealkdin
>>> Twitter: ncaidin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:36 AM, igor Novopashenny
>>> <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> we have the problem with the Appointments If we define meeting details
>>> in  the section tool, we expect that they must be available in the
>>> schedule, but they do not.
>>> Can somebody explain why it can happen?
>>> Regards
>>> Igor
>>>
>>> Von: igor Novopashenny [mailto:Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de]
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. August 2013 22:17
>>> An: 'Neal Caidin'
>>> Cc: 'sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org'
>>> Betreff: AW: [Using Sakai] Using SAKAI Course sites
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I use the tool Sections and define a schedule for lectures and practice.
>>> I’ve expected that these events would be shown in the tool Schedule.
>>> But I don’t see any events there.
>>> Why?
>>> Regards Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>
> To: pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org, portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org, sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:32:49 -0400
> Subject: [Using Sakai] REMINDER > Today's Sakai Teaching and Learning Call
> As a reminder, we will be starting up our weekly Teaching and Learning call in about 30 minutes at 2 PM Eastern Time (New York).  Dial-in information is below.
>
> Last week I posted an update email in an attempt to summarize where our collective thinking over the past two months as lead us and to outline what I see as an emerging plan for conducting T&L Capability Reviews on key Sakai CLE functionality with the work on Lesson Builder being the first example of how we might engage in such work.  My post on this is below.
>
> At the same time that we've been making good progress on this work, there have been continued discussions on how we might collaborate with the larger CLE community on developing a longer-term vision for where Sakai is headed over the next few years.  I'm personally interested in talking about how we might engage in these different efforts in parallel but with the size of the group involved right now I'm not sure how to best proceed and thus would like to discuss this on the call today if possible.
>
> Finally, with semesters starting up in North America I'm anticipating that we'll all be "distracted" a bit for the next couple of weeks.  We may wish to map out a realistic call/work plan for this time period so that we don't loose the current momentum.
>
> Josh
>
> CONFERENCE CALL DIAL-IN INFORMATION
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>
> Colleagues,
>
> I wanted to report out on the Sakai Teaching and Learning call that was held today as the group is starting to move towards an actionable plan and it would be very useful to get input from a broad cross section of the community.  I also know that not everyone who has been on the prior calls was available today and thus wanted to make them aware of the discussion.
>
> After a series of conference calls following the Open Apereo conference (see https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/BwrzB), the Sakai Teaching and Learning Group has begun to develop plans to engage in a process to review the Lesson Builder/Lessons tool being developed by Rutgers University (and others) as means to identify new capabilities and new user interface designs that would enhance its use from a teaching and learning perspective.  Our hope is that this process, once matured, could become a model for work with other Sakai tools and capabilities as well as means to engage in longer-term strategic planning for the product.  Central to this work is the commitment that once new capabilities and designs are identified, that the group would work to engage institutional decision makers as means to help find the resources needed to support the related development effort.
>
> Over the past couple of weeks there has been an effort to engage in a preliminary effort  to review the Lesson Builder/Lessons tool which has been lead by Marilyn Dispensa and Rob Fentress as well as several others.  Some of the outcomes of this work are documented at: https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/PED/Lessons+Tool%3A+Best+Practices+and+Suggestions.  At the same time, the group has identified the need to also engage in a usability review and wish to make this part of the review process as well.  Based on this preliminary work and discussions, the Teaching and Learning group is now starting to draft a document that would outline how we might engage in a review process.
>
> You can find a draft T&L Capability Review Process document at: https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/QwzzB
>
> We are encouraging everyone to look at this draft and either add to it or post comments as means of providing feedback.  Our hope is to complete the process document in the next 1-2 weeks and then engage in the review effort more formally.  As we start up the more formal review process we will be rescheduling our calls as we know there are folks interested in participating who cannot make the current call schedule.
>
> Josh
>
>
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