[Using Sakai] Math Editing in Sakai

[Robin Hill]

Well done!  I added a couple of notes, including a reference to the page where David Roldan Martinez's collection of messages can be found, and the most recent couple of messages.

Let's try to capture future e-mail discussions on this same page, and provide links to that page from other relevant Confluence pages:  
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/PED/Math+Editing+Ideas+for+Sakai


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From: jonespm at gmail.com [jonespm at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Jones [jonespm at umich.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:44 AM
To: Robin Hill
Cc: Mathieu Plourde; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for equations in sakai course

Yea, I seriously edited and reformatted it this morning based on my annoyance with all of the threads that kept coming up about Math, and old internal emails we had on the subject. I didn't have a ton of time to devote to it now, but I'll wanted to hammer some stuff out there and get the basics started.

Like most other topics in Sakai, it's just one of those things where theres a ton of ways to do it, but to do it in a way that works for everyone is going to take a decent amount of work. Also considering that the future of editors in Sakai 2.x is CKEditor (FCK is really depreciated) some things may need some work in that space as well.

We may even have to have a completely separate editor that someone could switch to in order for this to work, and it might depend on replacing ProcessFormattedText with AntiSami, so while on the surface it seems like an easy problem, a complete solution likely touches a lot of areas. Many of the implementation ideas I put on there have pros and cons. The renders that do image conversion would work across the widest variety of browsers, probably be fastest to implement but would be completely inaccessible. The renders that are in the javascript based would need some modifications to ProcessFormattedText in order to save the content correctly. MathML is a cool standard but (practically) impossible for a human to edit and doesn't have much browser support (and would need kernel changes as well to allow the tags)

Anyway, after Math, people will want Chemistry and Music too! We should have some consideration for these as well. Mark Norton started the page on this over 2 years ago. [1] ;)

[1] http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/SOUSA/Content+Notes

-Matthew

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Robin Hill <Hill at uwyo.edu<mailto:Hill at uwyo.edu>> wrote:
Sure...  I'll get right on it.  :-)

I mean-- Yes, good!  I started that Confluence page, "Math Editing," for this very purpose, and I will add this latest thread to it.  If you could add your own archived e-mail, that would be great.