[Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test

Rob Coyle rcoyle at jhu.edu
Sun Oct 10 09:40:05 PDT 2010


Yes, I am seeing that now too. This is new to me. In assessment types you can configure all the settings, but once you use that type to create an assessment you are limited to the settings you selected as part of the "type". Going back and adjusting the Assessment Type didn't adjust any assessments created under the old type, regardless if they published or not.
However new assessments did pick up the changes to the type.
If there is someone to tweak the settings on the backend in the database to get what you are looking for, I'm afraid that is beyond me as well.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Hopefully someone else in the community who knows about the backend can assist further.
Good luck.
--Rob

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From: Josh Baron [mailto:Josh.Baron at marist.edu]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:27 PM
To: Warwick Chapman
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Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test

Ah, yes, if you select a specific "assessment type" you will not get all of the exam configuration settings (purpose of the assessment type feature is to allow you to limit the number of configuration settings).  This may be different with 2.7.1 but with 2.6.3 at least I don't believe you can change the assessment type once you've set it and created the exam.  You may be able to make that change in the DB but I'm not myself on the deep technical side and thus couldn't advise you on that option.

Josh


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From:        Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com>
To:        Rob Coyle <rcoyle at jhu.edu>
Cc:        Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>, sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org" <sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Date:        10/10/2010 12:22 PM
Subject:        Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test
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Hi Rob

Yes, we're using Samigo on 2.7.1 and we have that setting as well, but for whatever reason (perhaps because I used the Formative Assessment template instead of Timed Test) I do not see the "Grading" section under Settings.

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com<http://warwickchapman.com/>


On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Rob Coyle <rcoyle at jhu.edu<mailto:rcoyle at jhu.edu>> wrote:
Not sure I fully caught what tool you are using specifically, or if this is instance related. We are on 2.6.4 and using Samigo Test and Quizzes. We have a Setting under Grading:

Students' Identities:

-          Students' identities can be seen by graders

-          Anonymous grading only



Robert M. Coyle,

Instructional Designer | Instructional Technology and Distance Education |
Johns Hopkins Engineering for Professionals | 6810 Deerpath Road | Elkridge, MD 21075  |

o: 410.516.2291 | c: 443.271.0453 | rcoyle at jhu.edu | www.ep.jhu.edu<http://www.ep.jhu.edu/>



From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>] On Behalf Of Josh Baron
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Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test



This is labor intensive but one work around we've used is to enter an unique comment into each student's exam feedback area (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.) and then go to the gradebook and see what comment they have and then write down their name.  You're left with a "key" for which unique number is which student.

I agree with Stephen, I thought you can now change the setting on the exam after it was taken to reveal the names but if that isn't working then this is another option.

Josh


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Joshua Baron
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Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:        Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com<mailto:warwickchapman at gmail.com>>
To:        Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za<mailto:stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>>
Cc:        sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>>
Date:        10/10/2010 09:38 AM
Subject:        Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test
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Steven

For some reason this assessment (Formative?) doesn't have the "grading" options in settings.

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com<http://warwickchapman.com/>


On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za<mailto:stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>> wrote:
Hi Warwick,

You should be able to change the settings of the published assessment
from anonymous grading to show the identities.

Regards
Stephen

>>> Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com<mailto:warwickchapman at gmail.com>> 10/10/2010 10:06 AM >>>

Hi All

I'm not quite sure how this happened but the test I setup (using
formative
assessment) for an entrance exam for 130+ candidates is now not showing
the
names of the "students" and just a submission number.  I am certain
that I
did a practice export on Thursday and the names showed in the
resultant
spreadsheet.

How can I establish the names of the candidates?

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com<http://warwickchapman.com/>





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