[WG: Sakai QA] [Building Sakai] Groups and Lessons - Re: request for help QAingLessons for 2.9.3

Wed Jun 26 05:30:48 PDT 2013

I created a Jira for the groups name some time back:
https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/LSNBLDR-141

Andrea Schmidt

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> I'm looping in the QA and Sakai-user groups to get a larger audience to
> see if your concerns are shared. Thanks for providing the steps for
> reproducing this behavior.
>
> (Please see below Daniel's concern about how the Lessons tool creates
> groups and whether this might be confusing for users).
>
> Regards,
> Neal
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Daniel Merino <daniel.merino at unavarra.es>
> wrote:
>
>  Hi, Neal.
>
> As you say, I am checking if this is an issue for others. It looks as an
> issue for us, but maybe we are alone in this concern or we haven't
> understood how it works. So I have not opened a JIRA, but I can do it if
> you want.
>
> The steps to reproduce this (in 2.9.2):
>
> -Create an new assignment, for example, "Test Lessons".
> -Add in a Lessons page an "assignment" content.
> -Edit this content and check "Don't release item until all prerequisites
> are completed".
> -You can see that in Site Info / Manage groups a new group called "Access:
> Test Lessons" has been created.
> -Go to any group-aware tool, for example Resources, and try to make a
> group related action, i.e. to change a folder access. "Access: Test
> Lessons" is included in the list of available groups.
>
> We think that users using Lessons are going to be confused with these
> groups and also that an extensive use of Lessons can produce a big number
> of groups that can be difficult to manage with.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Thanks and best regards.
>
> El 25/06/2013 21:20, Neal Caidin escribió:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
>  Could you refresh my memory? Do you have steps to reproduce the problem?
> Have you opened a Jira or were you checking first to see if others have
> this concern too?
>
>  Cheers,
> Neal
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Daniel Merino <daniel.merino at unavarra.es>wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> I sent an email yesterday but nobody answered so I sent it again to this
>> topic.
>>
>> We are very concerned about Lessons creating groups to manage several
>> contents with prerequisites. These groups, which start with "Access:"
>> string, are visible in every group-aware tool (Resources, Assignments,
>> MessageCenter, Forums, Roster...) and we think that they can be very
>> confusing for our users.
>>
>> Is there any way to disable the creation of these groups? We would like
>> to avoid them even if we have to sacrifice some Lessons features.
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> El 23/06/2013 18:14, Hedrick Charles escribió:
>>  > 2.9.3 is coming up very quickly. I'd appreciate any help in QA'ing
>> the copy of Lessons that will come with it. A couple of changes have turned
>> out to involve a lot more code that I had expected.
>> >
>> > * In 2.9.1 Gradebook made a change so that any tool that uses Gradebook
>> must implement a new API. Lessons did not. As a result, grades reported by
>> Lessons were not shown to students, and probably were not included in final
>> grade calculations. The same would be true of any contrib tools that had
>> not been updated to implement the new API. I've fixed that. The code needs
>> testing. Specifically it needs testing for graded comments, student
>> content, and comments on student content, and it needs testing specifically
>> when those items are limited to be accessible to specific groups (to the
>> extent that that restriction is possible -- not all of them are
>> group-aware).
>> >
>> > * I had a report that MP4 video was not showing on the iPhone. That
>> resulted in LSNBLDR-216. Initially I thought upgrading the player would fix
>> it. However the problem turned out to be in the implementation of
>> /access/lessonbuilder. In the process I fixed several issues: HTML5 is now
>> used to display MP4, webm and ogg, if the browser supports HTML5 and it
>> claims to support the MIME type for the video. Otherwise I next try the
>> Strobe Flash-based player. Finally I use <OBJECT> or <EMBED>, which leaves
>> it to the browser to find a player.  JWPlayer is no longer supported, for
>> licensing reasons. (And the initially reason for using it no longer applies
>> anyway.) I also fixed an issue that caused Quicktime embedding not to work
>> (for browsers that have a Quicktime player, of course). Testing should
>> include MP4, FLV, Quicktime, and if possible webm, ogg, and random types
>> not explicitly supported. Please try as many different browsers as
>> possible, including portable devices.
>> >
>> > * I have simplified the build process. You now adjudge the <parent>
>> declaration in the main pom.xml, and choose a profile for 2.8, 2.9, or
>> 2.10. If you want support for contrib tools you enable the optional profile
>> in tool/pom.xml. The build has been tested on 2.8. (Trunk has also been
>> tested on 2.8.)
>> >
>> > Note that there are database updates for moving to 2.9.2 and 2.9.3,
>> both defined in files simplepage.for-2.9.[23].sql. There's also a script if
>> you're moving from a pre-2.9 version of Lessons.
>> >
>> > For multimedia tests, you may want to use sakai-29.rutgers.edu. It is
>> running he current 1.4.x, and is a two-node cluster. Some of the code
>> should be tested on a cluster.
>> >
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