[WG: Sakai QA] [Management] [Building Sakai] Conversion scripts: Microsoft SQL Server scripts (who maintains?)

[Clay Fenlason]

My own view is that *whether* to follow this tack for 2.7 is not
really a determination for the Product Council to make, though it
should play a role in making sure this reduced DB support is clear to
both the community and casual downloaders - including an explanation
of how to change the situation, if someone is motivated.

At the same time, I think this is yet another example of something
that needs to come up before the release cycle begins. Knowing what
resources we have for QA and maintenance is something that should be
firmed up before we even get started, and on that point the PC could
be a stronger advocate.

It's my aim to get firm commitments of resource for a 2.8 cycle by the
end of the conference, and if we can't get such commitments we'll need
to scale plans back accordingly. We should be applying the same
discipline to a release cycle that we do to a project looking to
graduate from incubation - a plan with requirements supported by
committed resource.

~Clay

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Nate Angell <nate.angell at rsmart.com> wrote:
> I'd be happy to hear others say this proposed deprecation is minor
> enough not to warrant Product Council scrutiny, but in an attempt to
> be systematic, should the Council weigh in? The question of MS SQL
> support in general seems larger than that of these specific scripts.
>
> Unless I heard strong support from multiple institutions that plan to
> maintain MS SQL support in general and these scripts in particular
> going forward, I would support Anthony's suggestion to remove the
> scripts from the 2.7 branch and move them to contrib.
>
> --
> Nate Angell
> Client Evangelist
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu> wrote:
>> MS SQL conversion scripts were added to trunk in July 2009 (SAK-16610) and a copy resides in 2.7.x.  The script is in a rather anemic state when compared to the Oracle and MySQL conversion scripts.  Over the intervening months a few intrepid developers have added a script here and there but I assume that the current incompleteness of the 2.7.0/2.8.0 MS SQL conversion scripts is due to the fact that most developers are unfamiliar with SQL Server and hesitant to update its scripts and are also working under the assumption that it's not their responsibility to maintain these scripts.
>>
>> Is anyone overseeing the MS SQL scripts and if so do they plan to keep them up-to-date?  I do not recall that we plan to offer MS SQL Server support in Sakai 2.7 or a future 2.x release.  If no plan exists, I plan to remove the MS SQL script from the 2.7.x branch since it provides a false impression of community support.  Whether or not the scripts should be removed from trunk and relocated to contrib is I think an issue worth discussing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> MS SQL Server-related Jiras
>>
>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-16610  (MS SQL conversion scripts added)
>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-8706 (db refactoring by G. Golden and J. Bush)
>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7002 (add MS SQL support -- open)
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