[WG: Sakai QA] Supported Databases?

Maurer, Christopher Wayne chmaurer at iupui.edu
Tue Apr 13 12:00:50 PDT 2010


FYI, I asked a similar question back in December:
http://n2.nabble.com/Building-Sakai-Conversion-scripts-for-db2-and-mssql-td4171063.html

Chris

On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Anthony Whyte wrote:

> Looking at previous Jira issues involving Db2, John Bush is a frequent assignee.  I'd start with him.  Also, Howard Baker of IBM has assured me that IBM is continuing support for DB2/WAS for 2.7.  
> 
> I continue to have concerns regarding the Db2 conversion scripts.  The scripts are incomplete when compared against the current mysql and oracle 2.7 conversion scripts.
> 
> I sense that developers who provide conversion scripts are 1) unfamiliar with DB2 and hesitant to update its scripts; and 2) are working under the assumption that IBM and rSmart are responsible for ensuring that the scripts are up-to-date and well-maintained.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anth
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Howard Baker <hcbaker at us.ibm.com>
>> Date: March 25, 2010 5:20:39 PM EDT
>> To: Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>
>> Cc: "Berg A. M." <A.M.Berg at uva.nl>, Coppola Chris <chris.coppola at rsmart.com>, "Adam Hocek" <Adam.Hocek at marist.edu>, Michael C Lavacca <mclavacc at us.ibm.com>, "John Bush" <john.bush at rsmart.com>
>> Subject: Re: 2.7: DB2/Websphere support / MS SQL server conversion scripts
>> 
>> Anthony, it is true that we don't have the conversion scripts working for
>> DB2 yet. We are working with the  IBM DB2 development to assist us with
>> making the necessary changes.  It is not true that we haven't been
>> actively working to make sure 2.7 is supported on WAS/DB2.
>> 
>> Our DB2/WAS support will continue for 2.7. We have been doing testing on
>> 2.7 for several months now and fixed several issues related to running 2.7
>> on WAS and DB2. We will begin testing of beta06 next week. We a have fully
>> automated suite of testcases that we run on a regular basis against 2.6.x
>> and 2.7.x on WAS/DB2 - and we have worked closely with the rSmart team to
>> make sure our test suite is in synch with theirs.  I will provide you with
>> a more detailed description of our testing in a separate note. We will also
>> begin testing the rSmart 2.7 CLE on WAS/DB2 in earnest in a couple of
>> weeks.
>> 
>> Although Marist still  runs their full production system on tomcat and
>> mySQL, we are also running an  rSmart 2.6.3 CLE on WAS/DB2/system z  in a
>> pilot production mode supporting a few school districts in the area. We did
>> migrate this from rSmart 2.6.2 to 2.6.3 by setting auto.ddl=true. We have
>> discussed the need to update the conversion scripts for DB2 but always had
>> higher priority items to work on and a limited development team - so the
>> conversion scripts always moved down the stack in terms of priorities. We
>> have a little more breathing room now and that is why we are able to
>> finally look into updating them for DB2.
>> 
>> Howard Baker, PMP®
>> IBM Certified Executive Project Manager
>> Marist College Joint Studies
>> Marist Office:845-575-3101
>> hcbaker at us.ibm.com
>> 
>>  From:       Anthony Whyte <arwhyte at umich.edu>                                                                       
>> 
>>  To:         Coppola Chris <chris.coppola at rsmart.com>, Howard Baker/Poughkeepsie/IBM at IBMUS                           
>> 
>>  Cc:         "Berg A. M." <A.M.Berg at uva.nl>                                                                          
>> 
>>  Date:       03/25/2010 12:42 PM                                                                                     
>> 
>>  Subject:    2.7: DB2/Websphere support / MS SQL server conversion scripts                                           
>> 
>> Gents--At today's release management meeting, I raised the issue of
>> Websphere/Db2 support for Sakai 2.7, noting the anemic condition of the 2.7
>> Db2 conversion script as compared to the MySQL and Oracle scripts.
>> 
>> MySQL:
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/reference/trunk/docs/conversion/sakai_2_7_0_mysql_conversion.sql
>> 
>> vs
>> Db2:
>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/reference/trunk/docs/conversion/sakai_2_7_0_db2_conversion.sql
>> 
>> 
>> Yesterday, I released sakai-2.7.0-b06 and as we look towards our first
>> 2.7.0 release candidate both Alan and I are concerned that the apparent
>> lack of active Websphere/Db2 support now represents something of a blocker.
>> 
>> My understanding (and correct me if I am wrong) is that rSmart and IBM were
>> committed to providing support for the WAS project and for the Db2
>> conversion script.  I myself have updated the WAS poms in an attempt to
>> keep them in line with the latest versions of projects such as Samigo and I
>> don't mind doing that so long as I know that there is a team available to
>> provide overall support for Websphere/Db2.
>> 
>> If the support strategy has changed I think we should reconsider our claim
>> that the Sakai Community provides active support for Websphere/Db2
>> installations.   If active support cannot be guaranteed I suggest that we
>> remove the WAS project and the Db2 conversion script from the 2.7.0 core
>> distribution and relocate it to contrib.
>> 
>> Your view?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anthony
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>   OSP has a reported problem (http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-18181) that only occurs with a DB2 database backend (QA7). Any suggestions on how to handle this? Since we don't list DB2 as a supported database, should we close it as "won't fix", or leave it open knowing that it likely wouldn't get fixed since we don't have a DB2 database to test with? Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> - Beth
>> 
>> 
>> 
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