[sakai-pmc] [sakai-forum] Re: What do we think of this so far?

[Jean-Francois Leveque]

That consolidation doesn't sound good to me.

Mixing i18n, a11y, docs and QA seems wrong.

Is portfolio still needed, when OSP is not maintained and the new 
portfolio project is independent?

Le 06/01/2015 21:22, Steve Swinsburg a écrit :
> Yep, that consolidation sounds good too.
>
> I still have the question as to why the google group would exist under
> the apereo.org <http://apereo.org> umbrella and not just a main google
> group. What do we achieve? Do we lose anything in terms of visibility
> and discoverability?
>
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>
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> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu
> <mailto:botimer at umich.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Sold. Now what about the mapping? It seems clear that activity is
>     somewhat lower and less diverse than in times past. Even though many
>     have been consolidated already, here is a further strawman:
>
>     gradebook2-dev, evaluation, samigo-team, sakai-mobile -> sakai-dev
>
>     infrastructure -> sakai-core-team
>
>     portfolio -> pedagogy
>
>     i18n, accessibility, sakai-docs -> sakai-qa
>
>     (and maybe something with eurosakai, ja-sakai, sakai-france, sakai-au)
>
>     Thanks,
>     -Noah
>
>     On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>
>>     The monthly costs of the server that host mailman and Jenkins
>>     together was something like $150 a month. We really don't need
>>     that Jenkins instance anymore because we have a Jenkins running on
>>     AWS now with the new nightlies.
>>
>>     We could put mailman on an EC2 (either the current machine or a
>>     micro) and shut down this existing machine to save the foundation
>>     money but someone would have to set it up with our custom hacks
>>     and configuration which would probably take at least a few hours.
>>
>>     But I think we also figured Google groups provided more benefits
>>     even over the cost savings, such as better archives of the
>>     messages, searching and a forum style web view.
>>
>>     On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu
>>     <mailto:botimer at umich.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         So, uhh... Is Mailman a problem? I mean: what is the total
>>         time + dollar cost annually?
>>
>>         I don't mind consolidation and outsourcing but it kind of
>>         feels like fiddling unless there are other costs and issues
>>         unknown to me.
>>
>>         I suppose we're moving other core workflow/infrastructure bits
>>         around now, so it's as good a time as any. This isn't an
>>         objection -- just wondering why the new mouse trap's better,
>>         since it might shape the transition (à la grand unification).
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         -Noah
>>
>>         On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>
>>>         Who do I ask about access to the Collab server? At one time I
>>>         had access but now I cannot get in.
>>>
>>>         I get the message "Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM, John A. Lewis - Unicon
>>>         <jlewis at unicon.net <mailto:jlewis at unicon.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             There is an API for importing individual messages. Maybe
>>>             someone wants to look at scripting a migration? On a
>>>             quick search I didn't find much else that is ready to use.
>>>
>>>             https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations
>>>
>>>             On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Neal Caidin
>>>             <neal.caidin at apereo.org <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>>
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Yeah, I think we should. That's one of the things I
>>>                 need to investigate (or use help in investigating).
>>>                 Maybe we can move the archives to a simple web server?
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Seth Theriault
>>>                 <slt at columbia.edu <mailto:slt at columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Neal Caidin
>>>                     <neal.caidin at apereo.org
>>>                     <mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > FYI, I would like to decommission all Mailman mailing lists this year in
>>>                     > favor of other options. I was leaning towards using Apereo Google Groups as
>>>                     > the most viable option.
>>>
>>>                     Do we plan to maintain the Mailman list archives
>>>                     in a specific manner?
>>>
>>>                     Seth