[sakai-pmc] [sakai-forum] Re: What do we think of this so far?

Matthew Jones matthew at longsight.com
Tue Jan 6 07:18:33 PST 2015


The monthly costs of the server that host mailman and Jenkins together was
something like $150 a month. We really don't need that Jenkins instance
anymore because we have a Jenkins running on AWS now with the new nightlies.

We could put mailman on an EC2 (either the current machine or a micro) and
shut down this existing machine to save the foundation money but someone
would have to set it up with our custom hacks and configuration which would
probably take at least a few hours.

But I think we also figured Google groups provided more benefits even over
the cost savings, such as better archives of the messages, searching and a
forum style web view.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:

> So, uhh... Is Mailman a problem? I mean: what is the total time + dollar
> cost annually?
>
> I don't mind consolidation and outsourcing but it kind of feels like
> fiddling unless there are other costs and issues unknown to me.
>
> I suppose we're moving other core workflow/infrastructure bits around now,
> so it's as good a time as any. This isn't an objection -- just wondering
> why the new mouse trap's better, since it might shape the transition (à la
> grand unification).
>
> Thanks,
> -Noah
>
> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>
> Who do I ask about access to the Collab server? At one time I had access
> but now I cannot get in.
>
> I get the message "Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)"
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM, John A. Lewis - Unicon <jlewis at unicon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is an API for importing individual messages. Maybe someone wants to
>> look at scripting a migration? On a quick search I didn't find much else
>> that is ready to use.
>>
>>
>> https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I think we should. That's one of the things I need to investigate
>>> (or use help in investigating). Maybe we can move the archives to a simple
>>> web server?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Seth Theriault <slt at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > FYI, I would like to decommission all Mailman mailing lists this year
>>>> in
>>>> > favor of other options. I was leaning towards using Apereo Google
>>>> Groups as
>>>> > the most viable option.
>>>>
>>>> Do we plan to maintain the Mailman list archives in a specific manner?
>>>>
>>>> Seth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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