[sakai-pmc] Dashboard inclusion in trunk

Sam Ottenhoff ottenhoff at longsight.com
Tue Jun 10 08:03:26 PDT 2014


I agree 100% with John Bush.  This is an important piece of functionality
that needs to be in core Sakai to round out the product.  Blocking the road
and demanding that the contributing institution fix all JIRAs and meet
other criteria is an outdated and unhelpful method of operating.  I believe
there are enough of us that together believe in pushing the product
features forward and will collaborate over the coming months on getting the
remaining JIRAs resolved.


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM, John Bush <jbush at anisakai.com> wrote:

> I don't think you understood my point.   Inclusion in trunk doesn't
> necessarily mean something is 100% production ready and stable, or
> that its passed detailed QA.  Putting it in trunk does actually help
> get more eyes and more QA on things, because more people will be
> running it everyday.  If there is translation work that needs to
> happen, getting it in trunk will help move that faster as well.
>
> If you were bringing up a bunch of issues that break the build, or
> otherwise cause day to day work to be affected, then you would have a
> valid reason for not including in trunk.
>
> The dashboard IMHO, makes Sakai a much better product, much more
> useful, and valuable.  The technology stack is no different than other
> things we support.  It was built by a school we all know and trust.
> Its been running in production.  Those are the types of criteria I
> think are important to something getting in trunk or not.
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque
> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr> wrote:
> > 10 being expected to be released within a few weeks and is therefore
> today's
> > release.
> >
> > Putting Dashboard in trunk shows intent to put it into 11 which is
> > tomorrow's release.
> >
> > Doesn't seem to me in a good enough state for that, AFAICT. I would like
> to
> > be as confident as you are, but I need more information for that.
> >
> > Le 10/06/2014 16:28, John Bush a écrit :
> >
> >> We aren't talking about putting it in a release tomorrow, we are talking
> >> about putting it in trunk for 11.
> >>
> >> Seems to me it's in a good enough state for that.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque
> >>> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't able to attend at Miami and am therefore learning about this
> >>> discussion now.
> >>>
> >>> Is dashboard currently used in another language than English?
> >>>
> >>> About the general state of Dashboard I've just checked JIRA quickly and
> >>> found the following.
> >>>
> >>> DASH-242 is shown as Critical and DASH-310 as Major.
> >>>
> >>> Apart from the issues mentioned by Beth, there are also the following
> >>> Critical issues:
> >>> DASH-308
> >>> DASH-292
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be a good idea to get Dashboard in good state before
> >>> its inclusion.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> J-F
> >>>
> >>> Le 10/06/2014 15:46, Anthony Whyte a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> Following up on our discussion in Miami regarding moving the Dashboard
> >>>> project from contrib to core before the anticipated migration of Sakai
> >>>> trunk to Github, I pinged Beth for a status update.  Her reply is
> below:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Feel free to let people know that we've been running Dashboard in
> >>>> production (stealthed) for several months without incident, and we
> plan
> >>>> to unstealth it in the Fall. There are still bugs related to
> >>>> functionality we could use some help on (e.g. DASH-242, DASH-310), but
> >>>> we feel the software itself is robust and production ready."
> >>>>
> >>>> Given this assessment, I'm prepared to draft a proposal that would
> have
> >>>> us move Dashboard to trunk for Sakai 11, unless someone objects to the
> >>>> idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Anthony
>
>
>
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