[sakai-pmc] VOTE: PMC chair/vice-chair tenure and election bylaws changes

[May, Megan Marie]

I'd rather see an amendment than steam rolling over one of the members.  

How about: 

In addition, the existing 6 month tenures of the current chair and vice-chair's tenure will be extended until 30 June 2014 in order to both simplify the transition to a new election model and establish a July to June period of tenure for both positions.   Elections will start no later than 1 month prior to the end of term. 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bush [mailto:jbush at anisakai.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:38 PM
To: Noah Botimer
Cc: May, Megan Marie; sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] VOTE: PMC chair/vice-chair tenure and election bylaws changes

Move for a roll call would be my preference.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:
> I actually favor voting before the conference. I just don't think we should codify blackout windows in the bylaws. I think election dates are better handled operationally.
>
> At present, the proposal has failed. Is there an amendment suggested or should we withdraw it, or move to a roll call?
>
> Thanks,
> -Noah
>
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:54 PM, May, Megan Marie wrote:
>
>> I think this is different than the run of the mill votes -we're talking about the leadership of this committee!   Perhaps we can compromise to have the vote occur before the June conference?   With the term running July to June this makes sense anyway.
>>
>> Megan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org 
>> [mailto:sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Noah 
>> Botimer
>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:47 AM
>> To: Jean-Francois Leveque
>> Cc: sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] VOTE: PMC chair/vice-chair tenure and 
>> election bylaws changes
>>
>> A purpose of our construction is robustness. If an individual member will be away for an extended time, that should not substantively change the viability or capacity of the group.
>>
>> As the membership is individual, I think that the onus is on the individual to maintain awareness of group activity, notify the group of extended absence, or request special assistance for help in staying current while away from the office.
>>
>> With respect to activity around the July-August timeframe, something in the PMC bylaws would certainly not be surprising, even if inconvenient. I respect the cultural and regional subtleties to all timing (calendar or clock) issues, but the suggestion was not made arbitrarily. It aligns with other important and well-published community activities during the calendar year.
>>
>> With respect to ad-hoc votes, they come up when they come up -- and I think the robustness of our membership handles that versus scheduling irregularities as well as any solution could.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Noah
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/01/2014 17:12, Sam Ottenhoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   It's not personal vacations, most French higher education institutions
>>>>   are closed in July and August. Shouldn't I feel excluded because I'm
>>>>   French if chair election are likely to regularly happen when I have to
>>>>   be on vacation?
>>>>
>>>> But the PMC is a group of individuals and not a group of 
>>>> institutional representatives.  Members have been chosen to serve 
>>>> on the PMC because they have demonstrated a great individual 
>>>> contribution to the Sakai Project.  If the PMC feels like it is 
>>>> institutional work, or part of the institutional job, then something is wrong.
>>>
>>> Suppose I'm on vacation from my institutional work, how do I know 
>>> when I have to be available for the PMC? How long can I be away from network?
>>> How often do I have to check for new votes?
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