[sakai-pmc] Update on Stack Overflow sites

John A. Lewis - Unicon jlewis at unicon.net
Fri Dec 19 15:36:16 PST 2014


Okay, I set up a Sakai Q&A Forum we can play with. It is defined here:
https://groups.google.com/a/apereo.org/d/forum/sakai-forum

Go ahead and join it and I'll promote those of you that want it to
"Manager" and then you can try out all the management features there.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> If the end goal is moving the lists there, let's do it, it would be a lot
> easier to search. It would be awesome if you could mark a message as a q&a
> message rather than a new list but we can try a few things.
>
> Cheers
> On 19 Dec 2014 07:09, "John A. Lewis - Unicon" <jlewis at unicon.net> wrote:
>
>> That could certainly be the bigger picture as well, but in terms of
>> letting people ask questions about Sakai (which is certainly what a lot of
>> Sakai-User and Sakai-Dev traffic is about today), we could set up a "Sakai
>> Q&A" group for you to play with and see what you think, and maybe try
>> directing some traffic over there if you like what you see.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the eventual goal was to move the collab.sakaiproject.org
>>> groups over to Google Groups, this would essentially be what you're
>>> describing, right?
>>>
>>> But I don't believe that anybody (Neal?) has gotten around to
>>> identifying what lists need to move over, and which ones need to be
>>> retired, and setting this up.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:58 PM, John A. Lewis - Unicon <
>>> jlewis at unicon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A different experiment we could try is using the Apereo Google Groups
>>>> infrastructure to use what they call a "Q&A Forum" group that has some
>>>> features similar to SO. Not quite as cool as SO, but still usable as a more
>>>> durable archive of common questions and answers. If you want to try one
>>>> out, let me know and I can get it set up. (I've been experimenting with the
>>>> "Collaborative Inbox" group type recently for handling things like Apereo
>>>> licensing, and it is actually pretty cool.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Steve Swinsburg <
>>>> steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, just noticed they were gone too. Interesting experiment though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like both of these proposals have had no activity in a month
>>>>>> and have been completely deleted. (Unless they were deleted for another
>>>>>> reason).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably best to stick with the idea of tagging questions or some
>>>>>> other plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changing habits is hard. And I wasn't sure if the "pilot" had
>>>>>>> already been completed or not, or if we should have continued to encourage
>>>>>>> posters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if you think it is time to move towards using the general site
>>>>>>> with the sakai tag, I will certainly support that effort and help with the
>>>>>>> coordination. It would be cool if somehow this could be integrated with an
>>>>>>> effort to improve technical documentation on Confluence (or outside of
>>>>>>> Confluence) but those efforts seem to keep losing energy for some reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 cents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Steve Swinsburg <
>>>>>>> steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two more months have passed and activity in the sites has stalled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMHO opinion we might be able to get over the first hurdle, but I
>>>>>>>> highly doubt we will get over the second, which requires vastly more
>>>>>>>> committed people, so I'm tending towards ending this experiment and
>>>>>>>> suggesting we post decent questions and answers to the general site with
>>>>>>>> the sakai tag.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be nice if this was coordinated so that we can spread the
>>>>>>>> reputation love around though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Matthew Jones <
>>>>>>>> matthew at longsight.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It looks like about 2-3 new people joined since then. Though what
>>>>>>>>> either project really will need are people active in Stack Exchange who
>>>>>>>>> would actually be active on this site, and not just people who click the
>>>>>>>>> button. That is the bigger phase 2 hurdle when we get to the commitment
>>>>>>>>> phase. Both Apereo and Sakai will probably get out of this first phase soon
>>>>>>>>> without a problem. Someone without reputation across Stack Exchange counts
>>>>>>>>> significantly less on phase 2 than someone who moderately active on some
>>>>>>>>> other Stack Exchange site. To get out of the second phase we need 200 total
>>>>>>>>> people, but 100 of them have to be somewhat active on other Stack Exchange
>>>>>>>>> sites. (200+ rep at least)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was in a conference call today and was saying we could use some
>>>>>>>>> more people and also talking up Stack Exchange. How there are a variety of
>>>>>>>>> topics and you don't have to be a developer to be involved. Anyone also can
>>>>>>>>> participate in topics of Academia, Travel, Russian Languages and Home
>>>>>>>>> Improvement (to name a few), and looking at those other sites will be of
>>>>>>>>> huge help now and if the site does get launched.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of that was why we wanted people to put questions on Stack
>>>>>>>>> Overflow and tag them with "Sakai". So we could at least build up some rep
>>>>>>>>> there. But even with those Sakai questions I still have more rep on Arqade
>>>>>>>>> (a video game Stack Exchange community) than Stack Overflow. ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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