[sakai-pmc] [Building Sakai] Re-proposing - Edia skin manager for Sakai 10

[Anthony Whyte]

I'm reviewing the license change today and will confer with the Apereo Licensing WG regarding next steps, if any.

anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan | arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228


On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:

> * Precondition sounds like it is met.
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> * Incubation, at this point, sounds optional. 
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> * Voting does not seem required.
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> Therefore, please provide comments by Friday, Dec 20 for a final decision on this proposal.
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> Thanks,
> Neal
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>> 	Roland Groen	December 16, 2013 at 8:36 PM
>> Hi,
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>> The license change from GNU Lesser General Public License to ECLv2 has been done, ​pls ​check https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SM-21 and the skin manager trunk / 4.2.1​ @ https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/edia/skin-manager/​ .
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>> ​Cheers,
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>> Roland Groen
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>> 	Neal Caidin	December 16, 2013 at 10:39 AM
>> > License.  Yes, changing the license is a pre-condition to moving the code from contrib to core.  Change the license first, then consider promotion.
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>> What if the proposal acceptance became contingent on completing the license change by a certain date, for example, before January 17, 2014?
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>> Thanks,
>> Neal
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>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype: nealkdin
>> Twitter: ncaidin
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>> 	Anthony Whyte	December 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM
>> Three opinions.
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>> License.  Yes, changing the license is a pre-condition to moving the code from contrib to core.  Change the license first, then consider promotion.  Second, the only code we should consider moving is skin-manager trunk.  We leave the rest in contrib.  The tags can't be relicensed: they represent frozen artifacts and cannot be changed.  I would leave the branch code behind as well and untouched as regards the license. (2.4.x to 2.7.x; SM1-SM7).  Yes, if trunk history is retained checking out an earlier revision would unmask the old license.  If this is a concern, then leave the history behind by performing an svn export of skin manager trunk and start with a clean directory tree.
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>> Formal Incubation.  I think it overkill in this case.  Quite likely the paperwork/review process alone will doom it for 10.  [1]
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>> Voting.  I don't see why skin-manager requires a formal vote of the PMC.  Other than the licensing issue (a blocker) it's suggested inclusion is no different than earlier lazy consensus proposals made on behalf of capabilities such as roster2.  If members of the Sakai team (a.k.a., the release team) which also includes PMC members think skin-manager inclusion inappropriate for 10 they will push back.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Anth
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>> [1] http://www.apereo.org/content/s3-core-process
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>> anthony whyte | its and mlibrary | university of michigan | arwhyte at umich.edu | 517-980-0228
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>> 	Steve Swinsburg	December 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM
>> I commented in the other thread but I would like to see the license change made before any promotion occurs. Also, considered the new incubation process?
>> http://www.apereo.org/content/incubation
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>> That process would ensure everything else is in order.
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>> cheers,
>> Steve
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>> 	Berg, Alan	December 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM
>> Its great to see this proposal emerge.  Sakai 10 is really making compelling strides.
>> Anthony, is this proposal tabled so that we can vote on it?
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>> Regards, 
>>            Alan
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>> Alan Berg
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>> Innovation working group
>> On the use of ICT in Education & Research
>> University of Amsterdam
>> From: sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [sakai-pmc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] on behalf of Neal Caidin [neal.caidin at apereo.org]
>> Sent: 14 December 2013 02:22
>> To: sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org; Sakai-Dev
>> Cc: Jaeques Koeman; Mark Breuker; roland at edia.nl Groen
>> Subject: [sakai-pmc] Re-proposing - Edia skin manager for Sakai 10
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>> Building on Mark Breuker’s proposal (aka stealing), and tying up some loose ends:
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>> Proposal: Include the Edia Skin Manager tool in the main distribution. [1] Edia has agreed to convert the licensing to ECL V2 (Educational Community License version 2). Edia also has offered to help maintain the Skin Manager in the main distribution. Also Mark Breuker has offered to put effort into making it compatible with Sakai 10.
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>> Implications: The Skin Manager has been around for quite some time and makes it much easier to deploy new skins into a running Sakai instance. 
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>> [1] https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/SM/Home
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>> Cheers,
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>> Neal
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>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype: nealkdin
>> Twitter: ncaidin
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>> On Dec 13, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mark Breuker <mbreuker at loi.nl> wrote:
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> -- 
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org
> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
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