[Building Sakai] Modifying Clog tool for Assessment

[Adrian Fish]

Hi Sonette,

Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. I've been involved with other
projects here at Lancaster and they've been soaking up my time.

I think paging through the posts is the better option, so I'm glad you're
taking that route. The entity provider needs to page the results from the
db so the the general load is smeared out.

I've already written some something similar to the available dates you
describe, in YAFT. Maybe I could work on that one.

The titles one is already done, isn't it? If you click the checkbox at the
top, it hides the post bodies.

Anyway, I'll add some comments to the CLOG tickets you raised, and we can
take it from there.

On a general note though, use github by forking CLOG. You can then send me
a pull request so I can review your code. No patches needed. You can do it
the Linux way if you want and send me a git diff, but a pull request is
probably easier for you.

Cheers,
Adrian.

On 1 October 2014 11:37, Yzelle, Sonette <SYzelle at unisa.ac.za> wrote:

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>  Dear Adrian,
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> We are going to follow you suggestion to page through the posts.
>
> Can we continue with the coding and then give you the patch so that you
> can see what we have done. If you are happy we will not have to fork.
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> We also want to add availability dates for reading and writing on the Clog
> tool (on site level).  We were thinking of adding this to the preferences
> page.  Do you have any suggestions. The lecturer wants the Clog page to be
> closed for writing and view during the exam phase.
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> Our users are still demanding that we only display the titles.  So I was
> thinking if we can maybe have a property in sakai.properties where we can
> set if the “Display only titles” should be checked or not checked. Default
> value must be unchecked as it is working now.
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> Regards
>
> Sonette
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> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Fish
> *Sent:* 11 September 2014 04:26 PM
> *To:* Myburgh, Francette
> *Cc:* sakai-dev (sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org)
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] Modifying Clog tool for Assessment
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> Hi Francette,
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> I don't think it's a great idea to fork CLOG and start a new tool. The
> functionality you describe doesn't sound like it should require a radical
> change in UI, so I think the risk of fragmenting a developer community by
> forking isn't justified. Have you got any UI mockups you could show us?
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> It would also be good to see some real world figures demonstrating the
> amount of data being downloaded on a site's CLOG tool. You could use cURL
> on your biggest site and just save the json chunk. I think it would make
> more sense to actually page the entire posts, rather than just the titles.
> A long list of titles doesn't sound very useful compared to a series of
> full post pages.
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>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian.
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>
>
> On 10 September 2014 11:35, Myburgh, Francette <FMyburgh at unisa.ac.za>
> wrote:
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> Hello everyone
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> Just a heads up about some development work we are planning to do on the
> Clog tool. Your advice is welcomed.
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> For our fully online courses, academics have indicated that they want to
> use blogging for formal assessment purposes.
> We have identified some gaps and issues with the current Clog tool that we
> need to address to support their assessment practices. Here are some of
> them:
>
> 1.       Timeout issues because of the large numbers of blogs that need
> to load on the first page of the tool
> So we want to display only the titles on the first page. Users can then
> click on a title to open that specific title, with paging for the rest.
>
> 2.       Add the ability for closing the clog tool for editing (but not
> reading)
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> 3.       Adding a marking interface and link the tool with the Gradebook
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> Our intended development work will result in a major change to the tool
> presentation.  Question:  is anyone else interested in using the Clog tool
> in this manner? Should we make these changes available as an adaptation of
> Clog or release a new tool altogether?
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> Regards
>
> Francette Myburgh
>
> UNISA
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